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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:12 am 
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Hi Driver X,

Yes, as the Grapeman says, they are quite acceptable for daily driving..

I do feel every crack & bump in the road, and slow down a lot for speedhumps - but that is not a problem. And it is worth it for the firm flat handling!! I have never driven a car that handles anywhere near a GTi!!! Even my old Mini was not this ruthless with corners :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Hi all,

I have said for (cough :wink: ) quite a while that I would update the build thread of my GTi - those who have read previous pages will know that it was an expensive and frustrating saga.. in fact I stopped in the end as it was too depressing.

So I am not going to dwell on what happened in the several engines it went through, but I am very pleased with how it is going now.

More than a year has passed of driving a high-powered GTi as my daily driver (including 4 track days), and actually it has been very reliable - a clutch, a cracked rotor, and a dynotune have been the only significant costs in the last year or so..

So here is a summary of where the car is at now, in terms of specs and mods;

A car with some History..It was well known in the early GTi days as CMYTOY, owned by Michael. It was in Hot4s mag http://www.ssgti.net/main.htm , did low 12sec 1/4 miles (http://www.redlinegti.com/qmt/), even won 'best enginebay' autosalon2000!!
It was even voted in top 3 all time coolest GTis viewtopic.php?f=4&t=48295&hilit=cmytoy&start=0 . :lol:
It is very clean, with Cosworth bonnet vents and a wide stance being the only giveaway that it is not standard.

Engine Specs (145kW atw at 15psi, re-built about a year ago)
new vf45 twin-scroll turbo (spools from about 2200rpm! ) and tuned manifold from DMWDave - this is the jewel of the engine and spools early and steadily. Will spin wheels in 4th just by flooring it! :twisted:
Haltech E6X ECU
Forged CP pistons & rods, ported & polished head &flow tested,oversized exhaust valves, Cultus cams, crank & pistons balanced.
Block from DMWDave, o-ringed, sonic tested, and grout-filled (up to the water pump intake,this helps the rigidity of the block. no freaking blockguard or dowel either!!)
9:1 comp ratio
Cam sensor for sequential injection (has made it significantly smoother,especially at low throttle)
Xtreme racing clutch (Exedy brassbutton HD clutch did not last a year)
DMWDave 4.5kg? lightened billet flywheel
Greddy Profec B Series II Electronic Boost Controller - Now ‘Low’ = 10psi (everyday road use) and ‘High’ = 15psi (trackday use)
New waterpump, oilpump, genuine Sards FPR, oversize fuel rail,
ColdAir box, urethane back engine mount, oil catch can (which drains back into the sump), oil cooler, Oil filter is inside the corner of the quarterpanel, with braided piping
new Bosch 450cc injectors
Modena LSD, one or two straight cut gears I think, Cino 5th ratio, lower ratio crownwheel (not sure exactly what)
2½inch exhaust with offset muffler, hi-flow cat - not super loud but sounds great..

Handling Specs
13x7” Minilites (with max offset machined), and Yoko A048 Semi slicks 205/60 13 (this made a huge improvement, improved 3secs at Marulan over the previous 17" 40 profile wheels!! Tyre press recco for A048 by Waylow which seems to work well; 28 psi front cold, 31-32psi rear cold => 36psi hot. Also 205/60-13 is only 6% larger diameter than standard 15" according to my GPS)
The big advantage here is that a whole set of the A048s can be bought 2nd hand for just a few hundred dollars, after 8 laps on an Aussie Racer!
Front brace with Engine steady, underbody front brace, rear brace, (Viagra to a GTi!)
Koni Yellow Front & Rear shocks, (rear less than a year old)
king springs Front 225lbs(I think?) , 600lb custom wound King spring rear
urethane bushes all over
Suzitech front coilovers ( http://www.suzitech.com/ ).
Not tweaked suspension at all - initially set it up moderately, with "2 - 2½ degrees negative camber, as much caster as possible and 1mm toe out on each tyre (front and rear)".

Honda Odyssey front calipers and DBA rotors with Ferodo 650C track pads and Castrol Super DOT4 brake fluid. braided lines. Also alloy air scoop on the hubs to direct air onto the brakes.
ie, stopping power is bezerk, hardly ever met a car I can't outbrake on a track!!
SUZ137 tierod arms
Lightweight Odyssey PC680MJT battery in boot, external isolator switch
Power steering (purchased from It'sUIt'sme) really helps with torque steer and also slow carpark turns!

Other mods
Progressive Shift light
decent alarm/immobiliser
Autometer oil temp & oil pressure & boost & voltage Gauges
'Tekkie-style secondary bonnet restraint'
Suzitech Shortened shifter, billet knob,
Greddy Remote Switching button so I can flick to high boost without taking my hands off the wheel (it is a wireless switch, $185, http://www.rmsmotorparts.com.au/cgi-bin ... tching.htm seemed like a good idea at the time, but I never use it!)

Further possible Mods?
I have thought long and hard about a rollcage, but it is too hard to use as a daily driver! (often dropping the kids to school or whatever)
Mark Chapman from MRC says that the BOV is currently constraining it from getting more boost than 15psi - so next time I have a bit of cash spare that is top of the list.
Also the TPR sensor was not working - so Mark de-tuned it a bit to compensate (down to 140kW atw). I now have a new one so just need to get it fitted too.

Track Times:
Marulan 46.0secs
Eastern Creek 1:59secs (first time)
Oran Park 1:29secs
Wakefield 1:17.9 secs (wet)

Some video footage at; http://www.youtube.com/user/T0yRac3r

A few pics and other info soon, but there it is.. finally!! :wink:
Just a quick question, how did you get that CAS to work on that cam gear without a tooth plate. I just cant figure out how it operates without one in your application.

Its that when doing a G13B conversion in the Jimny, the dizzy will foul the firewall, hence, this mod will solve issues.


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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:16 pm 
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It looks like its been setup to use the adjuster bolts on the cam wheel as its pick up.

You could use something like what lun8ic used in his gti build if you need fire wall clearance.

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:05 am 
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Yes Pauly is right - one of the bolts in the cam wheel is steel, and the rest are alloy - that is how it picks up the cam timing..

By the way - I was chatting with a friend of mine who got rid of his 400+ kW Ford FT-P monster/moneypit and got an HSV Grange (which he says has no power :lol: ).
I asked if he misses the old car, and he replied, "Every single day!!"
So I am having serious second thoughts about probably selling it - now I'd say I'll probably hold onto it!!
It's great to be so decisive!!!! :roll: :lol: :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:54 pm 
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Good to hear. Given the effort spent to set it up and the final result, I think it's a keeper.

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:14 pm 
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I would have to agree that you should keep it,even after I built the evoswift (and it is a fair bit quicker than either of my gtis ever were),I still missed the fun of driveing the front wheel drive car.Youve already spent the money to do it right ,can you ever imagine doing it all again when you find that its missing in your life!!

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:39 pm 
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dmwdave wrote:
I would have to agree that you should keep it,even after I built the evoswift (and it is a fair bit quicker than either of my gtis ever were),I still missed the fun of driveing the front wheel drive car.Youve already spent the money to do it right ,can you ever imagine doing it all again when you find that its missing in your life!!


I agree, Im in the process of doing the right now :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:59 pm 
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I took a Golf R32 for a test drive today!!

It did not have quite the push back in the seat that I was hoping for, but it was ok.
Cornering was a bit wallowy, but then cruising was very very smooth..

The DSG gearbox was really standout, and the seats and other comforts (eg electric lumbar support) were a dream.
Exhaust sound from the 3.2l 6-cyl was brilliant..

So, yep - still thinking about it, as I am doing quite a few kms in my GTi now and the comfort/performance balance is not working for me so well - especially with my dodgy back..

Watch this space!!

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:22 pm 
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I am with the other guys

I think you would regret selling the GTi

Its a fact we all stand to lose big money given what people are willing to pay

I advertised the jasstv GTi for $17500 & got offered $11000

All our cars punch above their wieght.

I am sure your Gti would flog the VW on a track day

Just remember the smile factor when you are lapping in yor Gti

Maybe a cushion on your drivers seat may help

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:45 pm 
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Nothing beats latex memory foam seat with good lumber support, its upgraded my work van to another level that my back is finally good again. You have the option of a well designed seat and to save your money for other things like a sequential Holinger 6 speed gearbox for the swift :)


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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:43 pm 
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well..... I bought the R32 today! :P

I completely agree that the GTi would beat the R32 around most tracks, (although the R32 is no slouch either, 0-100kmh = 6secs, here is a clip of 0-200 too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeuhTor0raA )

But the performance and comfort levels and reliability of the GTi are not quite what I need in a daily driver ("Soft!!!" "Told you so!!!" :lol: :lol: )

So I will start getting the GTi ready for sale and let you know more..

I am still going to do track days in the R32 as well by the way, so will see some of you there! :wink:

It is Black, 2008, 51,000kms, DSG gearbox,3.2 V6 by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:19 pm 
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Nice car James, too nice to flog at the track, not to mention how quickly you'll go thru tyres and pads... has it got a towbar?

Maybe you should buy a dirt cheap atmo swift, put a cage in, build an A frame and flog that instead, remember it's not how hard the car goes but how hard you go!!! personally driving something worth less but at ten tenths effort is more satisfying than an expensive car at nine tenths! :mrgreen: plus if it breaks you can still get home :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
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I look at it the same way, a few years ago I was looking at buying a all in one car but more track based but I knew I would not risk a big $$$ car like I would the swift. More fun throwing some thing cheap around on the edge even if its a pice of s**t. I have a few mates up here that race the r32s they are doing nice times, not many head out to lake side that track is known to eat cars.

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:15 am 
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dmwdave wrote:
I would have to agree that you should keep it,even after I built the evoswift (and it is a fair bit quicker than either of my gtis ever were),I still missed the fun of driveing the front wheel drive car.Youve already spent the money to do it right ,can you ever imagine doing it all again when you find that its missing in your life!!


i could not agree more !! i sold my swift gti turbo and got a audi A3 1.8t thinga ma jigga for a comfy daily drive wile i build my other gti project ..... the audi now has no interior just 2 seats poly bushed all round and am currently changing to a larger turbo still isent a gti ... a close friend of mine had a 3sgte starlet that blew up he spent 2 years with 350zs type rs etc etc hes now rebuilding the starlet and couldent be happier .... you just cant beat a built little hatch ! [-X


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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
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Thanks Steve,

I appreciate what you are saying but I did finally make the decision and I am pretty happy with the R32.
It is not as visceral and mad as the GTi - not many things are!!! :lol:

But I am committed and will put my GTi up for sale in the next week or 2..
Just want to get it re-dynoed and fix a couple of minor niggles

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 Post subject: Re: GTi Build diary: from street tough to track day
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:56 pm 
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GONE!!!

But it is still in the RedlineGTi family....

.......................Sold to Buzza's brother Dan!

Hope he has lots of fun with it's mind-distorting power on the track - it has been a fun car for me, and I am sad to move on but think it is the right time..

I'll still check in on the forum pretty regularly (the VW ones are bland!!) and hope to see some of you on a track day sooner or later!! :D
I've really enjoyed the RedlineGti community - thanks all and especially the Mods and supporters who keep it all running! =D>


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It is an amazing car, the power is absolutely ridiculous (even with 3 big blokes in there)! He will enjoy the car I bet, I'm sure you will see it on the track! I'm jealous he bought the car and not me haha

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Fairwell Captain,

You will be missed. Thanks for sharing both your time and experiences on this forum.

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Zuboo wrote:
I look at it the same way, a few years ago I was looking at buying a all in one car but more track based but I knew I would not risk a big $$$ car like I would the swift. More fun throwing some thing cheap around on the edge even if its a pice of s**t. I have a few mates up here that race the r32s they are doing nice times, not many head out to lake side that track is known to eat cars.


Id rather risk big $$$ damage in a common r32 than a swift :D


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I thought it was about time this thread was updated..

My brother purchased the car from James as most are aware.. He was due to be a daddy again and hence the car had to go. I was spewing I didn't snap it up when James sold it and always told him if he sold it I would buy it. I owned the old suzitech cultus which I had to sell to buy the TOY!

My first outing for the car was Hatch Attack in September. When I was getting the car ready the day before I took it for a spin and stripped 3rd gear which was not what I needed a few days before leaving for QLD, I got it sorted with the help from some Mexicans who were staying at my house for hatch attack.

When we got to the Gold Coast Tom got SRSGTI off the trailer and I got the toy off, we drove them to Brissie and as we almost got to Lawrys house I stripped 5th gear so it meant another all nighter fixing it.

The day of hatch attack the car wasn't running right, coughing and spluttering but I took it easy on low boost. I ended up stripping 3rd gear again on the track so it was pack up time! 3 stripped gears in 3 days, has to be some sort of record.

I got my hands on Paulys Frankenbox which it is now sporting.

I decided to also replace the old E6x Haltech with a new PS1000 and while I was there got the car re-wired. It also now has 4 x LS1 coils, larger throttle body and a few other goodies ;)

The car is booked in for a tune in the coming weeks so I am looking forward to seeing the results.

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