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 Post subject: Rear Disk Conversion
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:06 am 
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I managed to get around to converting the Baleno over to GTX disk on the weekend and as I had imagined it was a direct swap using the GTX rear hub assembly and hand brake cable. Big thanks to Sk4wd for giving me a hand. We managed to do the swap in about 2 ½ hours.

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GTX Baleno rear disk assembles, including brake lines going from calliper to main brake line.
GTX Baleno hand brake cables.


Baleno with rear drums.
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Rear disk assembly fitted in place.
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Difference between the hand brake cables at the hub end. Drum on the left & disk on the right.
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Hand model: Sk4wd.

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Now I'm going to have brake dust to clean off the rear wheels too :(

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Well done mate, have you noticed any differnce in the braking power? they definetly look alot better, so you've got that benefit. The swap didn't look that difficult at all.

Damn SK4WD you have some nice black finger hair going on there! And people call me weird for having hobit feet!! :P

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Braking feels alot firmer. The rear dosn't feel like it's having a hrad time braking downhill anymore. The disks will look better when I get around to getting some sloted rotors to match the front.

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Just noticed you guys arn't using the forklight anymore to lift the cars, finally doshed out the cash for a proper lifter ah shane, congrats, looks like new.

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So have you upgraded the front brakes to GTX spec as well? I would have thought that fitting rear discs with the smaller GL front discs would cause some disparity and rear bias. :?

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[YLD80Y] wrote:
So have you upgraded the front brakes to GTX spec as well? I would have thought that fitting rear discs with the smaller GL front discs would cause some disparity and rear bias. :?

For some reason my Baleno is setup to take the GTX pads (the GL pads just don't fit) so I don't see the point in changing the disk over when I'm not going to gain any more braking surface area.

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Yeah, well the front disc thing is a strange one… My car is a May 2000 complianced car and it definitaely had smaller front discs than it does now with the GTX ones.

Also to cover this theme the EBC Kevlar brake pad parts list depicts the 99+ 1.6 as being the same pad as the 1.8

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Ian, do the GTX fron assemblies you have look to have bigger bearings?
I was told they do?


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Ian, do the GTX fron assemblies you have look to have bigger bearings?
I was told they do?

I'll have a look tonight.

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Akil wrote:
For some reason my Baleno is setup to take the GTX pads (the GL pads just don't fit) so I don't see the point in changing the disk over when I'm not going to gain any more braking surface area.


Fair call, but interesting about the pads!
Actually my concern wasn't with pad area on the front, more that the bias for the GL may be different to the GTX, so fitting the rear discs might cause rear bias somehow. I guess that would depend on if the proportioning system on the GL is different to the GTX.

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re-activating an old thread...

I own a 96 GS.. obviously it got drums in the back..
I'm wondering if there's a need to swap the front end setup with the GTX's. Certainly I can use better pads than what's in the car currently. Any idea on the EBC part number?

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On the early Balenos they only had 235mm front disks therefore you will need to change over to the GTX fronts.

On later models they all had the same 240mm on front

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KEV_PARISH wrote:
On the early Balenos they only had 235mm front disks therefore you will need to change over to the GTX fronts.

On later models they all had the same 240mm on front


Man... no wonder they're quick to fade.. So.. out of the GTX front end.. can I just swap the caliper brackets and rotors alone, or does it run a different caliper as well?

And how big is the rear rotor btw?

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the rear disks from the GTX are 238mm

You will need:

Front hubs
Front calipers
Front disks and pads
Rear hubs
Rear calipers
Rear disks and pads
Handbrake cables

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Kev, thanks 4 the list.. so literally everything got to be swappedfront calipers included. Any idea if the Liana's hardware works? Haven't seen a GTX at the wreckers so far... TIA, btw..

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I'll have a butchers on my EPC and see what other models used the GTX part numbers.

I ended up buying all my stuff new, I did get some stuff from wreckers but the salt used on the roads over here had ruined everything and I couldn't get it refurbed :(

I'll give you a shout when I've checked the p/n's

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I have my old set of front brakes and calipers from when I converted to ap racing brakes, the disk are slotted. If anyone wants them pm me.


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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disk Conversion
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does anyone know how i get that setup in the States?

the only models i've seen here are the 2WD wagon and sedan, but i've heard the 4WD GLX+ Wagon's in canada had rear disc, and i would seem to me that most Esteem/Baleno parts are interchangable, so would i be able to swap the rear disc?

i want to upgrade my sedan to 4WD, and the easiest way i can think of is to swap out the Wagon 4WD system into the Sedan, which is essentially the same vehicle, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disk Conversion
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you might want to look at the aerio. The hub assy are practically carried over from baleno..

as for awd conversion... add a probable awd fueltank to your list. 2 fuel pumps, 1 for each bank.

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 Post subject: Re: Rear Disk Conversion
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:16 pm 
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cameronzero wrote:
i want to upgrade my sedan to 4WD, and the easiest way i can think of is to swap out the Wagon 4WD system into the Sedan, which is essentially the same vehicle, right?


Rear floorpan in the Wagon is completely different to the Sedan, which would make mounting the rear diff interesting.

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