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 Post subject: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:52 pm 
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Okay guys. I have an engineering hypothetical for you. Let's say that Suzuki sold twice as many Ignis Sports (I mean, a whole 638 of them over 3 years instead of 319!), and they decided to make a second model. Having lived with one for several years, what improvements would you make, while keeping it in the same price bracket (< $20K)?

Here's my list (in no particular order):
  1. Fix whatever makes that slapping noise at the handbrake lever when driving on a bumpy road.
  2. Make the rear wheel alignment adjustable*. No matter how strong it's put together, it moves over time.
  3. Widen the rims from 5" to 6". This would widen the wheel base and fill out the guards, while offering a wider choice of tyre profile.
  4. Use the M16A engine, but keep it without any driving aids such as the hydraulic clutch or stability control.
  5. Put 5" woofers pods in the front doors. Change the dash speakers to be only tweeters.
  6. Add Bluetooth. Everything's better with Bluetooth.
  7. Replace all yellow parts of the interior with silver.
  8. Larger brake rotors at the front**. Cross-drilled.

*As much as the lack of independent rear suspension gets criticism, I'd leave it how it is. It keeps the understeer/oversteer balanced.

**The brakes are sufficient without passengers, but they really struggle when you load them up with weight.


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:22 pm 
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You sure #1 isn't the passenger seat adjustment handle/spring? that is what makes the noise.. and it's only when the front seat is all the way back.

Agree with 2, similar concern to the rear toe on the New Swift

Other than that I am seriously happy with the Ignis Sport, I would prefer if it had independent rear, I only really noticed it on speed bumps though; possibly some larger wheels (but wheels I could easily fix if I really wanted). Would happily buy another one tomorrow even with the other Suzuki alternatives currently available.

If it was M16A for the minor power increase it would have to stay cable throttle, but the power isn't something i'm really hung up on, I think the power to weight is pretty good.

Why not just swap in an M18A block when you M15A lets go? :D


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:08 pm 
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If it were me,
- 16" wheels + 195 std rubber.
- lower std ride height by another 30mm.
- better front headlights (bi-halogens maybe?)
- fix that bloody front left seat rattle.
- standard front fog lights
- put the double-din cd player up high, and aircon controls down low (like jdm versions)
- cruise control (but this would require fly-by-wire type throttle body in 2010)
- PROPER Recaros! - not watered down street versions of a classic 90s design :P
- improve the way the front bumper/front flares/guards are assembled - if anyone's removed their front bumper for whatever reason, you'll understand why!
- have REAL wider guards, as opposed to faux-bolt-on flares that keep the original guards completely in tact underneath -- this limits the ability to lower them heaps with lower offsets. (more of a form over function thing lol)
- M18a high comp N/A motor :)
- 6" speakers in the front doors.


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:37 pm 
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I echo what you guys are saying, less rattles, less creaks, maybe more rev range for fun factor, better seats, and a 6th gear! Like the Toyota Levin.

I really like the car, it's just the rattles.

I had a go at fixing them the other day. The back seat rattle can be fixed by wedging the sub woofer box hard up against the seats.

If anyone has looked at the front seats, it seems that the rails actually bend out of shape and the extra clearance allows the bottom part of the seat to flop about. I think that by taking the seats out, heating up the rails and clamping them to bend the U shaped rail in a bit would significantly lessen the rattles.

Who's first? :P

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:26 pm 
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Adjustable steering column,15 x 6.5'' rims , 6 speed,100 kw motor,numbered build plate ,unique badging. :)


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:30 pm 
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bzchi wrote:
...it would have to stay cable throttle

1000 times this. What gives the engine its feel is having a solid link between your foot and the butterfly valve. My reason to hold the ESP is so it could stay as a cable throttle, otherwise you'd just want a button to turn it off.

Now I feel the need to check under my passenger seat for that rattle...


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:37 pm 
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My list:

- Rattles
- More steering lock as turning circle is quite poor compared to cars such as the Nissan S13 and Pulsar N15 which I have owned previously. Makes parking harder than it should, only saved by it's shorter length.
- Holden Cruze style rear lights (particularly those round brake lights ♥).
- centre exhaust and relocated tow hook.


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:11 pm 
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15x6 Enkei rims - same design
6 speed gearbox
leather hand brake lever
water temperature & oil pressure gauges
front foggies as standard
footrest

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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:46 pm 
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I wish it will have 6th gear..

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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:17 pm 
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Oh, I forgot the MOST IMPORTANT THING!

Fix the goddamn fuel pickup so I can turn left on less than a quarter tank without the fuel cutting out. The fuel pickup is just terrible. The first thing the JWRC team did was install 5 pickups in the tank.

I reckon if the same problem cropped up on a more common car, it would probably get recalled for it.


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:00 pm 
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Russell, I thought you sold your Iggy Sport?
Got another one?

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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:56 pm 
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Vuka1 wrote:
Got another one?


Got the same one back. I sold it to my brother-in-law, and he stopped needing it at about the same time I got a new job that I had to drive to.


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:11 pm 
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My list:

1. Passenger side seat rattles
2. Lower the car (30-40 MM)
3. Better Recaro Seat (height adjustable, capable to Lower 40-60 MM)
4. Wider rim and rubber (205/45/16 or 195/45/16)
5. Strut bar as standard
6. Side airbag


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 Post subject: Re: If there were a MK2...
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Look what I found!
http://ht81s.blogspot.com/2010/08/if-theres-mark-2-of-ht81s.html

Don't you love it when we get blogged about?

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