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 Post subject: took the buzz box for a spin
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:16 pm 
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hey people! I just came back from test driving the Ignis Sport. Here's my impression of it:

Pro's:
- great engine (nice and revy, smooth revs etc)
- good handling and grip (though not as good as the MR2, though I didn't expect it to be (should be more forgiving than the MR2 though) )
- steering was quite direct for a car witrh power steering
- nice front styling
- tastful interior (mesh headrest inserts aside)
- nice looking rims (that didn't scrape the guards on full lock steering)
- comfy seats adn great head room
- decent front seat room (considering I'm 6 foot 5 inches)
- much better NVH than I expected after reading the reviews
- good feature list (air con as std was nice as was auto up/down on the pwr windows)
- good brakes
- the car I drove felt good, which was positive considering they were running it on unleaded fuel
- seems to be fuel efficient
- good stock stereo for a sub 20k new car
- cup holders are convinient
- fake carbon fibre looks tastefull
- gear change was nice
- light clutch was weird at first, but I quickly adjusted to it



Con's:
- crap interior and boot plastics (athough they didn;t seem to rattle)
- thin exterior panels (door didn;t feel very solid)
- hardly any boot space if the back seats are up
- space saver spare tyre
- weird rear styling (looks better in some colours)
- steering wheel feels weird (strange leather used, though only a minor issue)
- only average build quality.
- no resale value (I'd get a second hand one for this reason)
- doesn;t have the exterior temperature panel like the standard Ignis does (why not?!?!?!?!?)
- no interior remote boot release (security reasons behind this?)
- only comes with 1 key fob
- accelerator pedal was a bit small and my foot slipped off a few times (embarrasing :oops: )


Overall view: a good little car that brought back memories of the GTI I had and that definetly warrants it's position on my short list though I would also like to test drive a 4 year old Celica and compare the 2 cars...though the celica will go for more in the second hand market and I won;t be able to get the model with ABS (too expensive) (unless I find a base model that has it optioned).

Now I have to consider selling the MR2


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 Post subject: Re: took the buzz box for a spin
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:39 pm 
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Arv wrote:
- doesn;t have the exterior temperature panel like the standard Ignis does (why not?!?!?!?!?)

It's got a blue light for cold, and a red light for hot. Nice and simple.
Also apparently the VVT does not work when the blue light is on.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:43 pm 
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i think he is talking out the outside temperature (Environment)...


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 Post subject: Re: took the buzz box for a spin
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:17 pm 
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pHr34kY wrote:
Arv wrote:
- doesn;t have the exterior temperature panel like the standard Ignis does (why not?!?!?!?!?)

It's got a blue light for cold, and a red light for hot. Nice and simple.
Also apparently the VVT does not work when the blue light is on.


How do I know when my car is overheating, or running at normal operating temperature?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:44 pm 
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well.... if the red light is on then it is running hot if it flashes (i think, i havn't got the manual near me to confirm it) it is overheating, if neither blue nor red is on then it is operating normally, if blue is on the it is running cold.....


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:16 pm 
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Do people agree with my write up?


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ANDREW wrote:
i think he is talking out the outside temperature (Environment)...

The standard Ignis has external temp??! You learn something new every day!

Arv wrote:
Do people agree with my write up?

I'd agree with it. Except after owning the car for a few days you'll find out how buggy that clarion head unit is. After a decade you'll find out why you shouldn't have paper cone speakers on the dash.

Two of my friends didn't like the Ignis Sport at first (both of them own a Mirage)... they changed their minds when I let them drive it and drag a couple of V6s off at the lights.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:43 pm 
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pHr34kY, you gotta take me for a spin in your (me being the passanger) so that I can see what the car can do without a dealer telling me to watch the speed limit

I didn;t know the standard Ignis had the exterior temp display either. The dealer told me

Also what does the CD player do that's so bad? and is it east to replace the std front speakers?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:24 pm 
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Arv wrote:
pHr34kY, you gotta take me for a spin in your (me being the passanger) so that I can see what the car can do without a dealer telling me to watch the speed limit

I didn;t know the standard Ignis had the exterior temp display either. The dealer told me

Also what does the CD player do that's so bad? and is it east to replace the std front speakers?


The front speakers look p*ss easy to replace. There's a clip on the grill which (I assume) can be popped open with a screwdriver (just like a tin of paint).

As for the head unit, mine (and everyone I've spoken to that owns one) does the following:
- Skip at least every 5 minutes. Sometimes 2-3 times per song (only really happens on MP3)
- Will play one file while displaying the tag for another.
- It will occasionally get the track numbers mixed up.
- When turn the unit on, the auto-resume will often jump back about 10 tracks. This happens so often that I'm stuck listening to one album for a week unless I intervene. I tend to work backwards through an MP3 CD.
- Won't always read the ID3 tag.
- The display settings (i.e how to display the ID3 tag) will get reset each time you eject the CD. If you like it to display the track title, you gotta set it upon each insertion.

However the FM antenna is great. During the last redline cruise (out in the middle of nowhere), I could pick up JJJ from 5 different reapeaters across Victoria from the same spot. This is purely because roof mounted antennas rock - which is something that I think the standard Ignis doesn't have.

Check out the different antenna positions:
Standard Ignis (above the A pillar):
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/news/aw/suz0309101amg.jpg
Ignis Sport (front-centre roof):
http://imagessuzuki1.free.fr/images/japon/suzuki/2003_ignis_sport_1.jpg
As you can see the sport one offers better reception.

Oh, and if you're out in the Eastern suburbs, I'll be happy to take you for a spin. I don't break the speed limit, but I don't brake for corners either.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:10 am 
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I don;t brake for corners either. The fact that you dont, says that you have confidence in the sport's cornering abilities which is good.

Maybe I'll go down to the East, I'm in the SE myself.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:16 am 
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i agree with the cd player issues excatly!,
thats why i replaced it...


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ANDREW wrote:
i agree with the cd player issues excatly!,
thats why i replaced it...

Blimey! That was quick!

I'm going to consider it in future, but first I wanna get all of my speakers and amps running in the boot. At least it's got a pre-out so I don't have to upgrade it first.


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