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 Post subject: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:52 pm 
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Hi Everyone!

My name is Kyle and i'm new here. Not new to the platform at all, but new to the site. I've been into the Metro side of the community for quite a while and GT swapped my Metro about 10 years back.
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This past year I finally got ahold of an actual GT, 2 of them actually. There were to GTs floating around my neck of the woods over the past 10 years, and I managed to pick them both up within a 2 month span. I've decided to use one as a parts car (black GT) and the other (White GT) as my track car build.

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I originally wanted to build this car into a ChumpCar racer, but I realized once I had the cage put in that there just isn't enough head clearance for a proper cage, while maintaining a comfortable driving position, therefore i've shelved the ChumpCar plans. Lucky for me, I'd already purchased all the suspension and accompanying parts for the build.

To avoid a (longer) wall of text, I'll summarize what all that HAS been done to the car, along with pictures in chronological order. I'll reply to my own topic with how its first track day event went (last weekend).

Engine was extremely healthy. Compression was 210-215 across the board. I pulled that engine out because I have a set of cams for it and want to regasket it while out of the car. In the meantime, I have a junkyard engine to drop in it. It has bad compression, but it's even at 145-150 on all 4. I ran the J/Y engine at the trackday with zero issues, aside from having worse compression afterwards (120-130).

Vogtland Springs (I have a set of H&Rs to compare with them)
Excel G Shocks
Poly bushings front and rear
Reinforced rear control arms
4/2/1 header - 2" turbine muffler - 36" glasspack - turndown before RR wheel
Aluminum flywheel/Centerforce Clutch
Stock rear swaybar - Not running a front bar as of now
Installing S13 front camber plates this weekend
eBay heim joint rear toe arms
CRX Si front brakes with Hawk DTC70 pads - Zero fading issues at trackday
ebay technafit brake lines
16x7 RPF1s with 195/45 595Evo tires - Tires are terrible and definitely the weakest point
eBay aluminum radiator & hoses
TurbineTech aluminum underbody brace

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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:05 pm 
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Here are a few video links to my first track day with it.

Trackday was at MidPond Raceway in Columbiana Alabama. Very small (1/2 mile) 12 turn track. It was built as a personal go-kart track, but the owner decided to open it up to drift cars and other motorsports. Its a really well taken care of track and the owner is really laid back and nice. I'd highly recommend it if you're looking for a cheap track experience. $80 if you pre-register and $100 if you just show up. They typically do 1 trackday a month. Tech is very very basic.

This was my first ever track experience. Overall, I think both myself and the car did really well. I feel like I overdrove the corners a bit and definitely need to learn to not cross my arms over. I had a massive traction issue through the center and exiting the turns. I only had -.5* camber in the front and my tires are 5 year old cheap 595Evos. I couldn't put ANY power down, this engine is virtually stock, and is far from healthy.

I'm going to be installing some S13 front camber plates this weekend to try and get a bit more camber. Tires aren't on the budget just yet, so i'll likely do my next day on them, but with extra camber. Hopefully that'll help a bit. I also did not run a front swaybar for this event. That wasn't exactly intentional. I had the exhaust done without the front sway bar and didn't realized my clearance issue till i went to put the bar on. I'm getting some spacers made to remount the bar this weekend as well.

Please give me your input and advice! Here are the 2 videos I have of me driving at the event:

This is a 14 minute video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeW7hZ ... e=youtu.be

This is a much shorter video. Its of my best timed lap of the day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4nGZl3 ... e=youtu.be


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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:15 pm 
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Built on a budget, having fun so cant beat that. Lap times will get better each time you out there learning and modifying it.
Well done, keep at it. =D>

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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:24 am 
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If you enjoy the building it’s a great deal of satisfaction when it goes well. Really fun passing 1600 vtecs with an NA 1300. They love it..... 8-[

Keep it up....gearbox is a weak part of the deal....2nd gear mainly and also the diff.
Have a wee look at the diff and the pins as they can wreck the box if one comes out.

Engines are nearly bullet proof in stock form...

Stock suspension is atrocious. Good you are onto that...

Good semi slicks are well worth the expense...resist going to too low profile of a Tyre...they need a little bit of sidewall....50’s are pretty good. On a 16” rim with a 195/45 you are higher in diameter by 1/4” than a 195/50/15 and on a stock box your ratios are not good...too low in first and too high in second....on a stock box you are probably better off with small wheels and tyres.

You can look for some lower ratio gears. I want to a dog box....it’s low ratio but a high 1st gear....really livens up even a standard gti engine


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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:57 pm 
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Went back to the track again a few weekends back. This time I had new 205/40/16 Falken RT615k+ tires and I installed the front swaybar.

For reference, my previous best laptime was a 49.0. This time my best was a 46.10 with all my laps being in the 46 second range. Car has much more grip on entry and exit. I'm still struggling a bit with putting power down with wheel input, but i'm working on getting more camber up front and an LSD to help combat that. Once I get those, i'll go ahead and swap in my primary engine with a bit more power.

Here are a few videos of this recent trackday. The CRX that's in the video was 2 seconds a lap faster last time, this time I was all over him. I would have crushed the previous track record for FWD, except that a new Civic Type R with semi slicks showed up. He was running 42s. As always, tips and feedback are appreciated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRkqlOyrw40&t=206s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JYVE1s8i4&t=56s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1g3q4iC2Q&t=17s


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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:24 pm 
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So, your rev counter doesnt work properly huh? I always want you to be in a gear lower than the gauge shows.
Proper hand technique
Larger rear sway bay and a front cross brace when you can. I feel like you will get more benefits from a handling performance increase than a power increase on that track.

Lose the battery, swap in a smaller one, thats 0.5sec right there.

Castor, castor, castor. As much as you can get in the front. Perhaps a bit of toe out in the rear would help the back end come around on those tight corners.

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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:38 am 
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Do you prefer Vogtland or HR springs?


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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:35 am 
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I had good experience with vogtland but still lots of body roll. Best thing may be to save for a set of coilovers


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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:07 am 
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They seem very similar to be honest. As said before me, im still unhappy with the amount of body roll.


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 Post subject: Re: 92 Swift GT into track car build. My first track car!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:49 am 
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If you don’t mind me saying your foot is off the gas in the turns so you are tending to coast around the corners and this is not the best fwd technique. Admittedly, the non lsd won’t help you get power down in the corners which is why you are likely coasting. Go in fast and brake hard to a slower speed...turn in and get on the power sooner...come out of the corner under power...modulate the understeer with throttle. On one vid you lifted mid corner and started losing the back end. The lsd is a must but you will understeer more and you will need to drive it through the turns. At the moment I guess it’s just spinning the inside wheel when you get on the gas in a turn. Get a plate diff....they lock the front wheels the best. Some lsd’s will still spin a wheel in the air and not help. Be aware with a plate diff the little bugger will have more of a mind of its own so you have to be the boss....but it’s the one thing on a twisty track like yours that will save you seconds.


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