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 Post subject: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:52 pm 
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93 suzuki swift ga body
92 swift gt swap(still getting there)

Having problems getting the intake manifold to seal. (Felpro)

Would keep up with a rzr800 in the dunes with the old 1.3 8v, excited to see what the 16v will do.


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:52 pm 
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Very cool, I approve :D =D>

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:06 am 
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It was my daily of well over 120,000 miles, but in the snow storm years back I managed to e-brake my way into a curb going 30mph. Completely bent the front half frame out of wack. I like the gokart feel of the car and didnt have the heart to scrap the old girl. Sooo, why not try and build a sand rocket out of it.

Unfortunately I don't have any pictures left of the majority of the work I have done to it over the years.

So far I have;
Rebuild and swapped gt engine
Gt trans
Larger aluminum radiator
Routed exhaust...higher...( kept bottoming out and ripping the exhaust off at the manifold and it gets cold with no heater)
Late model rear suspension springs(1.5 in lift)
Saturn sedan complete struts in front(3in lift)
Rear turning brakes
No front brakes(just the hub)
10in atv wheels drilled to fit lug pattern
Chopped doors, roof, front fenders
Bent up a bit of roll tubing
5 point harnesses
As much weight reduction as can be done.
Battery in the rear(likes to nose dive while airborne)

Many people would stop me in the dunes and ask "what the hell is that thing?"
Every time I'd get a priceless look when it tell them. Haha

Still much to do and many hard parts to source.

Where does a guy find a tube exhaust manifold for a dohc motor? Havent been able to find one anywhere.

Does a ecu chip make a big difference in a stock engine?

https://qcwo.com/technicaldomain/produc ... -gti-1-3l/
Has anyone ever used this chip?


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:22 pm 
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Found this exhaust https://www.deaperformance.com.au/p/Ext ... ADE/RBH010

Supplier is Australia based though. There are a few suppliers in Aus and only a handful in the US. SuzukiRD are one but they are hard to deal with apparently.

Chips - there is a guy on here the does ECU chipping with good results. Well worth it. Can do an exchange program too.
https://www.redlinegti.com/forum/viewto ... t=ecu+chip

Lots of information in this forum around parts so ask away. Someone will chip in. Pun intended

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:12 pm 
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DEA also have 4/1 here:https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-SWIFT-1-3L-FWD-TWIN-CAM-1988-1999-TUNED-HURRICANE-HEADERS-EXTRACTORS/272515154859?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:40 am 
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Thank you for the links! I have spent hours on google trying to find a header for this car. They sure aren't giving these any.I bet it would be 600-700 USD to get one.

I ordered my intake gasket through suzukird, day 4 and my order is still being processed. They only list a header for SOHC 16v.

I've messaged Gtaye about a chip. He recommends his Rospen chip for my application.
I'll take his advice and hopefully have one coming soon.

Shop is sitting at a comfortable 38F... burr


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:46 am 
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:D Would keep the cast manifold unless yours is cracked or you need a lighter one. With improved secondary pipes on yours, those off the shelf headers will probably be a sideways/backward step power wise compared to stock.

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:39 am 
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Removing more weight from the front end would help would be a large benefit to this car. I can currently pick up the backend by hand. Which is nice for moving around the shop, but scary for when I launch this the car more than a couple of feet in the air..

That being said, I'm trying to build low end torque more than anything.

What do you mean by improving the secondaries?
Increasing tube diameter or the length Or both?
My bank account would be much happier this way.

My manifold is all stock.
No cat
1 3/4 tube
Glass pack in the middle
Dual yoshimura street bike glass packs for tips
(Yes it unfortunately reminds me of a fat can honda)


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:17 pm 
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Sandyswift wrote:
Shop is sitting at a comfortable 38F... burr


Im currently sitting in 28C - a bit warm.
I have heard my Aussie friends have been in 35-40C!

Do keep this updated, looking forward to seeing some action.

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:33 am 
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Well the guys at Doctor Injector have me a call. I'm at work so I wasn't able to talk long or remember all that he had said.

He had asked if these have 2 primary and 2 secondary injection type because 2 of them were a Y type and 2 were a X type.
(I'm pretty sure that's what he said)
They all had the same part number on them.

He also said there that each one was a different amount of cc's flowing them, not one was pumping out the same amount of fuel.

One injector had a terrible spray pattern.
None of them leaked
He said he will clean them again, but I may need to replace them. That is some serious money.


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:56 am 
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Injectors shouldn't be very expensive...

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:23 pm 
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I've been searching OEM injectors, they range 180-320$ a piece. I havent started to look into what else can be used.

Is there a cheaper aftermarket alternative?


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:33 pm 
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Discussion on injectors here

http://www.redlinegti.net/forum/viewtop ... 55ebdd8964

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:53 pm 
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post up a want to buy and have a look at a few of the facebook Aussie/UK GTi groups. While expensive to send from Australia or UK to USA, given size and weight you should find cheaper and ok postage costs.

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:55 am 
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The injector cleaner gave me a call, 3 are in great shape(now) and the last one he said will most likely run a little on the rich side. I'll probably run it and do a plug check and see how bad it is and go from there.

Thank you for the information, that was a good read!

Had a nice gentleman for Canada contact about a old suzukird dohc 4 to 1 header. Ended getting an afm and a tps for him as well! Thank you if you are reading!

Today I'm welding tabs for a 32in light bar on the roof and round rally lights off the front bumper.


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:01 am 
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I'm trying to increase the brake pressure to the rear wheels as I have removed all brake components from the front end. My 10in atv wheels will never clear the calipers.

I have the stock gl brake drums in the rear. Right now it feels like I have none assisted brakes in the rear and can't get the rear wheels to lock. I'm not expecting to stop on a dime, but something that resembles a brake would be nice.

I currently have everything set up stock, but with the front brake lines blocked off.

Would I be better to bypass the proportioning valve and run off the master cylinder or run the lines to where the front brakes would be plumbed in?

Is the 4 way brake line block near the gas tank/ fuel filter a proportioning valve or just a brake line connector?


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:24 am 
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If you don't want the Suzukird headers I would be interested in them. Can you give the Canadian guy my details if it falls through?

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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:29 am 
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I've already paid the man! I might be more excited for the afm and tps though.

I reassembled the intake and fired it up. Nothing has change. Still wont idle. Almost seems to be running worse. About to buy an after market fuel regulator.

I've been fiddling with this this issue for more than a month now. What am I missing? Hmmm

I've been reading about the ECU "hunting". What exactly does that feel like. Is it hunting for ignition timing? Would a chip fix this problem if it was the ecu itself?


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:55 am 
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Still fighting the battle.
I think the tps and my fuel pressure regulator is the problem.
Tps ohms out of spec.
Vacuum manifold pressure is within spec at 1200 rpm( have to leave my foot in the throttle a little)
Brought the fuel pressure regulator over factory vacuum with the engine off and fuel pump relay socket jumper weird hot. Could not bring fuel pressure under 32psi(4 psi over idle)

Cheap aftermarket regulator in the mail.


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 Post subject: Re: Swift sand car
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:49 pm 
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Re: brakes - replace pads and slave cylinders. Should be more than enough to stop the wheels spinning with refreshed drums. I'm not sure if they will have enough ooomph to lock the rear while driving, but it should be close.

Idle - what is happening? Won't idle because it dies, hunts/fluctuates, over-revs, runs on 3?

Pressure reg won't help unless you have already proven you have low pressure. (I could be wrong but pretty sure)

Have you calibrated the TPS?
Have you checked the AFM circuit for spec?
Is your timing bang on the money?
Dirty plugs, dizzy cap, coil, injectors etc

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