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Good reason to import a car from England that doesnt have electrical or other issues 8)
Love this project and didnt know the awd justy was available there with the alloy rocker
covered g10b?
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its not the g10 its the full monty single point efi 8 valve 1298cc g13ba...
with an alloy rocker, looks to have been made out of recycled cans, not melted down though just crushed together out the back
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southy wrote:Big fan of these cars!!
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Im not such a fan at the moment, but the love will come back Im sure
It arrived from the UK a month or so ago and now while in the warm garage I discovered rust. damn pommy cars the entire right hand sill was rusted in the lower seam taking out the floor and outer sill. so out with the grinder for some exploratory cuts
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then the action cuts
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Then some hole filling
inner sills
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outer sill
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some final welding and seam sealer and this repair is ready for paint of course I also discovered this
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so this is next for repair. Thankfully I have found a rust free 1998 wreck that has donated all the loverly purple bits
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You are having a ball....arent you. Bet you couldnt wait to get the grinder and welder out....been a few years!
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yep 6 years since I welded anything, what I have learnt during that time is patience and to measure many times cut once. compared to the escort which needed similar attention this was a breeze. Aided of course by having a rust free replacement part. just need to smooth down the welds for a bit of pretty.

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Onto the next bits, this mornings job
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Thanks again purple cino
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new panels prepared
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Like a new one
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while I had the wire brush out in an anti rust campaign I thought Id decorate the disks.
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will do a bit of bodyfilling next weekend and close out the front chassis rail with the next new panel
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I have collected new front and rear arms as these look scabby and am possibly after a new AWD rear subframe...If mine is actually bad as it looks scabby too. As I said Damn british cars!!
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F"%$£$^&£%$ing Rust!
well the sill is complete with fortunately only a skim of filler
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front bumper mount is finished...no filler
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while I was under it I thought Id replace the rear arms as they look well scabby. So I started tounbolt them as you do...Holy f^%$£&^%ck bushes were crunchy and doing little to support the car. secondly every bush inner tube has rust welded itself to the bolt. sheared two heads on the inner arm bush and of course then had nothing to beat with a hammer. so before more damage was done I loosened all other bolts and dropped ther whole subframe. Easy job done
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Bejesus, ended up cutting the inner bush bolt in 2 places to remove them then did the same with the toe arms bolts which were actually worse. I could turn the arm bush bolts as they had torn the rubber bush into two, the toe arms bolts were stuck tight and couldnt turn because of the cam lobe so the big 10 inch grinder comes out...too big...could only cut through half the bolt before cutting subframe, 4 inch was too small, couldt rotate bolts becuse they wer stuck...Fu*&^%*ck. Anyway managed to shear the bolt with built up agression and swear words. so Now I have rear hubs free of the arms, arms free of the rusty subframe but gthe toe arms are still stuck fast to the hubs. used a puller on one andit pulled the arm of the bush, so now I have a bush stuck to the hub, no fu&^$**^&$cking idea how to remove that one. Oh yeah the awd toe arms are 10mm shorter than the standard ones too, great becuase i have them new which I now need to cut and shorten.
anyway need to either replace or repair the subframe see WTB section !
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No idea how this crap image gothere as I didnt place it in te post. Probably not there now!!!!
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bit of an easier time this weekend, rear panel was a bit scabby around the lower edges and the boot floor looked a little messy from a previous repair or something, also the Mk4 rear panel has larger holes fo the Mk4 light loom, so out with the spotweld drill
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Hey presto a big hole!
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then a rust free replacement was trial fitted
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so with red bits it should be a bit faster!
will plug weld it on tomorrow
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had a good day with the welder,
rear panel all watertight and solid,
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also managed to finish the underside with stone chip paint, best job ever had so much fun with deadener gun I just bought, went looking for things to paint...


also finished epoxy coating the rest of the rear suspension parts, subframe, arms, sway bar and brackets.
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Very nice GTP!
This little car got so far from its 'birthplace'... :shock: I'm keeping an eye on your thread.

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cheers buddy,

It has come a long way and to be honest there isnt much left that actually was originally from where it was made.
the front guards, bonnet, front bumper, headlights, bonnet catch, bonnet catch stay, interior door and rear 1/4 trims, front window glass, seats, window winders, parcel shelf, spare wheel, rear tail lights, rear bumper and bumper reinforcing, wheels, rear brakes, rear windows, front hubs, front brakes, brake lines, master cylinder, stereo, winscreen wipers, shock absorbers, springs, bushes, rear panel, drivers sill and part drivers floor, front bumper mounting panels, strut stiffeners, seat belt restraints,center console and all suspension arms have all been replaced in the last 12 months.
In another 12 who knows what will be left.

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You really need to get a job ............. or a job that pays you less!!!!!
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well its registered in Australia!

After a few hicups with having to put new seat belts in and find a replacement diff bush and rebuild the standard rear arms it passed its VASS inspection and then I stood at the registration counter as the Vicroads person told me I couldnt register it as it wasnt approved for import then walked away for 10 minutes. As it turns out the Nevdis database hadnt been updated with the VIN number as they were confused as a Subaru had a Hungarian Suzuki VIN so shut down into the foetus position. After a few Frantic phone calls and a weeks wait it sailed through with no further dramas. Of course its now 1000km's away as I had to leave for work without the car but I get to collect it next weekend, swap the non standard parts back over and back to Canberra till christmas.
Also Bought a WOV Falcon ute but thats another story!

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Congratulations Mate! 8)

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can you pls tell me how you got this wonderful copper finish?
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copper paint mate.
Its a copper based weld through Primer, probably shouldnt need it over the whole panel and certainly not the outside but it protects the inside of seams and allows you to weld through it without burning away and or polluting the weld pool.
Comes as an Aerosol at most panel supply shops.

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gtpswift wrote:copper paint mate.
Its a copper based weld through Primer, probably shouldnt need it over the whole panel and certainly not the outside but it protects the inside of seams and allows you to weld through it without burning away and or polluting the weld pool.
Comes as an Aerosol at most panel supply shops.

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great stuff thanks and keep up the meticulous build its inspiring
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Been on holidays so thought Id make it all one colour, well shade, anyway, all registered and looking great.
Fresh paint
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Body done
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Out in the sun, next to the escort
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Thanks for looking.

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Matte black - you're doing it right. =D>
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will see how it goes I have grave fears for removing bugs and tar etc and not having shiny spots, but looks great day one and against the green of the escort.
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esky is mad, always loved them especially with the rallye flares
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Looks great. Any more photo's of the mk1 esky?
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Excellent choice of colour! Will be interesting to see in real life as it'll definately show imperfections in your body work :wink:

Next move.......Mallala for a lap time 8)
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Hey JP,

It must cost a lot to export/import Justy over to Oz land!
Is it with Swift Gti engine or Justy 8V 1.3?
Either way, you got basically Cultus Gti-A.
Can you get SOHC 16v head from Vitara? As you know, some of GTi-A was with that head.

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yes your right dean it does show the imperfections in the body, but only where I havent worked, found a 'bulge' next to the filler flap I didnt know was there, its only undercoat at this stage, just to get it one colour for use.
Atchi, was reasonable cost to get here, and comply if not a bit of a hassle, the hard part was living in the UK for long enough to qualify to import it, find it, and arrange for delivery, engine will go in once I find a real Job.
no more photois of the escort they are so hard to upload, check out
http://rsmotorsport.com.au/forums/viewt ... f=9&t=1545 for engine discussions and
http://rsmotorsport.com.au/forums/viewt ... ?f=27&t=56 for a bit more on the car
have collected plenty of new upgrades ready to be bolted on.

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atchi,
its got the Justy SOHC single point injected engine, the GTi engine will go in once I get a new computer as Aussies dont use MBE and it will cost more to retrain them than replacing it.

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Hi GTP
The car is looking really good, bet your glad to be back in the warm :D
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cheers Jerry,
grass is always greener though. last week we had a heat wave 44.3 degrees peak and still 31 at 1:00 am at night. but it never lasts back in the shed in a few weeks.
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So JP,

Is this mean your MBE going spare?
If so let me know how much and we may have a deal.

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already sold mate, sorry
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So getting settled in SA so thought Id break the shipping crate open and have a look to see what we have and prepare for slotting it in.
So lifting the rocker cover for a Cam measure up found this
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Looks like re-profiled Exhaust cam measuring 10.5mm Lift but a very small base circle of 28.4mm
and the Inlet measures 11 mm lift.
It is said to have solid lifters But cannot see and not interested in pulling it apart at this stage to see.
No idea what cams they are or what they are based on as there are no markings and an internet/redline search didn't find an exact match. closest was BD17 (cosworth Spec) to Inlet but again no idea what duration.
How this translates into real world I also have no idea.
Inlet ports look like this:
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I have collected An Aussie spec ECU and loom with GTi base tune (Thanks Moyle19) and in doing so had to determine Injector Ohm-age. So investigating the injectors Bosch 0 280 155 884 I have ascertained they Flow 176cc at 3 bar...If my calculations are right this is enough for 130-140HP. The engine was reputedly making a dyno proven 158Uk HP. so the question what fuel pressure was he running or how much was he lying. So looks like to be sensible I might Up-spec the injectors before tuning the new ECU.
Also need to machine (reface and lightweight) AWD flywheel and attach to new engine and I should find some ARP or similar Flywheel Bolts.
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Hi JP,

Did you buy that engine from Brian?
If so, it will be Falkner engine so it will be good.
Camshaft could be his own spec, too.

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yes mate its a Falkner engine...supposedly...but who knows with that seller, It will be interesting to see once its up and running how UK and OZ HP equate. And I did get it for a good price.
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Aye, it was for his mk1 rally car and you got it for less than £1k, I know.
I got his spare mk1 Gti off him with roll cage!

I'm curious to see how UK's roller his Bhp happy it is!

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No mate I dont think it was Brian I bought it from. was in a Mk2/3 race car. Paid less than that too.
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I found this buried deep in the archives. I guess I have been spending too much time on this
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But more recently I have attended to a few small jobs.
New bushes throughout including caster adjusting front bushes and rose jointed rear toe arms (Thanks Git_Sum)
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Rose joints need replacing as they rattle damn it. might look into making some new nolothane bushed arms rather than rose joints...
also dropped this 27mm Whiteline sway bar...Nice and shiny too
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Also put in my old springs from the silver one, lowered it another 10 mm so now it rubs and graunches over everything
Oh well. Now I'm struck with the tough decision, raise it or modify it further. I'm getting old as putting the slightly taller spring sin is appealing/. Though the falcon despite being 3 inches lowered on 40 series tyres is a lot more comfortable so maybe its worth the poor economy to keep the Subazuki low...Oh the first world problems

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The photos were nice and clear before uploading sorry there, nothing that exciting really?

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How many diffs has the falcon been through? :P
Swift gone.
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Only had it since November so at this stage None, well that's not true, I did swap in an LSD, But didn't have too. I thought it was the BA that had diff troubles.
This one also has low comp on 3 and 4 so swapping a spare engine is on the cards. I cant complain cause I only paid 2K for it. and 1200 for another 120K old wreck. so far I have swapped, bonnet, both doors, a front arch front bumper, Grille, Tailgate, rear diff, front suspension and bigger brakes off later model, rear valance, stone tray, front seats, center console, steering wheel and Airbag, stereo, door cards, springs front and rear Lowered 2 inches in front 4 in rear, new bushes and ball joints throughout, airconditioning compressor, accumulator, and regas.
Bloody hell that's probably more than the Subazuki. But all up it only owes me 4K so I cant complain, best thing about common cars is parts are readily available at supermarket carparks...teee Heee

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with that much lift if it does have soilds the shim will be on the underside of the bucket
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Yep as they are certainly not on the top like a old VW watercooled engine. More like the cosworth solids.

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He got the engine from Nick Clark, he did alot of racing up castle Combe circuit, few people that knew him there said that his swift was very fast and nick said he set fastest lap time there in his racing class!
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Yes you are right Jesse.
So far everything he said seems true when I purchased the engine, I figured at the price even if it needs a rebuild the main parts were there. As you know Nick could sometimes be ...difficult...Anyway having dropped the sump and rocker cover all is up to scratch so far, and the advice is it's a small use bill falconer engine so I hold some hope.

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Wow, A year since my last post in this thread.
nothing to report really. new seats...well older seats from the race car into this. Well one from the race car another re-upholstered spare into this. yeah think that explains it. told you there wasn't much to report. needs a clean due to winter and the leaves that get everywhere
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Nice trumpets 8-[
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Devil-GTi wrote:Nice trumpets 8-[
watch this space!

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Hey that's my seat!
Swift gone.
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waylow wrote:Hey that's my seat!
Looks a lot nicer now though!
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waylow wrote:Hey that's my seat!
What? are you that small? damn narrow thing?

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