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 Post subject: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:18 am 
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i am looking for replacement shocks for my ignis sport

after doing a search on the site i came across these part numbers and just wanted to be sure they work
86-2588 sport and for the rear 80-1349

the front i believe is an insert and the rear is the complete shock
i currently have tein s-tech springs
will these work with my springs?
and are these the correct part numbers as i don't want to by the wrong parts.
are there any fitment issues i should know about?

anyone else using these ?


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 12:48 pm 
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ignorant ignis wrote:
i am looking for replacement shocks for my ignis sport

after doing a search on the site i came across these part numbers and just wanted to be sure they work
86-2588 sport and for the rear 80-1349

the front i believe is an insert and the rear is the complete shock
i currently have tein s-tech springs
will these work with my springs?
and are these the correct part numbers as i don't want to by the wrong parts.
are there any fitment issues i should know about?

anyone else using these ?


If you found them under my name they are correct. i have been running konis of the last threee years now.

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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:12 am 
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what setting are you using them on?
are the front adjustable from the top or do you have to remove them to adjust?

can you explain about the sleeve and what was done to get them to work in the old casing?

i am getting them at a very good price... much cheaper than stock.
so i think this is the best option to me.


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 6:56 pm 
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I think about half on the front and the rear. Seach for the kino insert guide by bzchi for the front strut modifications. Hint: its in the swift techincal section.

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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:23 am 
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markymark

after reading all your post on the subject i am of the impression the ignis sport casing is of a different length from the swift gti.
and you had to do some sort of modification to get them to fit. (sleeve)
i am not to sure i understand what was done.

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it turns out that the front insert is massively to short. meaning that the bottom of the shock will need a sleave arround the bolt to increase its lenghth. without the sleave the fronts would be lowered another inch.
Just finished putting the front struts back and from that short drive home it feels a lot smoother than before. bumps are absorbed more readily with the short stroke of the konis.
in the end it cost $150 to machine and install the new inserts. just a note the insert used is a generic insert and does require a spacer as the shock body is to short for the strut.




also ... how is the front adjusted?

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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:19 am 
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come on guys ....

need answers


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:15 pm 
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cut the top of the normal strut and remove the shaft and oil.
Drill hole in bottom of strut to the size of the bolt
Insert extra long bolt
Insert sleeve over bolt
Insert shock and screw together

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:23 pm 
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Yes i know what your saying,Modified strut towers so that the new strut insert will fit in.To my way of thinking there either,1. cutting down the strut tower nut so they can tighten the nut down further onto the insert or 2.placeing a domed washer under the bottom of the strut insert (userally silasticed in place )to take up the gap so the strutt insert wont rattle in the tower. They maybe also machining out the strutt tower nut to allow for a bigger bore strutt insert to fit thru the nut., that might help you some how. :)


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 10:29 pm 
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i think IGNIS SPORT has confused me even more :shock: :shock:

please tell me if i got this right.

after drilling the hole in the bottom of the casing ....

i would have to get a longer bolt than the one supplied and place a sleeve (metal tub? one inch?) over it to prevent the new strut from going all the way to the bottom of the casing?


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:44 am 
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I'm confused too, does the sleeve go down inside the original shock body for the insert to sit on because the insert is too short? or does it sit at the top of the original shock body because the insert is too long?

If the koni insert is too short, and you are putting the sleeve down inside the shock (around the longer bolt).. surely they must have a longer koni shock to use.

Is this what has been suggested? (much easier to explain with a diagram)

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Only issue in the diagram is that I gather when the insert is in place, the top lip of the koni insert sits flush with the shock casing, and doesn't sit proud like shown in the diagram (and how it sits when inserted into the GTi shock casing)


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 8:42 pm 
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Centering the sleeve is easy. Get a long piece of wire and thread through the sleeve. Insert the wire and sleeve into the strut. Move the sleeve with the piece of wire until it is over the bolt. Make sure to have the strut housing upright when doing this. Yes it is a bit of dicking around and will take sometime. Finally insert the shock and tighten the bolt.

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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 12:17 am 
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So the diagram correctly shows the method you are suggesting? and location of the sleeve?


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:27 am 
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Yeah, pretty much try and centre the sleeve with a piece of wire, then insert the bolt and finally strut. Alternatively measure the internal diameter of the strut housing, the diameter of the bolt and go see your local machinest for a custom sleeve. Takes the messing around of locating the sleeve.

Yep the diagram is correct.

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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:36 am 
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How long was the sleeve you added? 10-20mm? or longer?


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 Post subject: Re: koni replacement shocks
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:13 am 
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I dont know how long it was, but i was told that with out the short would s**t and inch lower. Ill take wheel of and see it the shock s**t proud of the strut. That should be and decent indication.

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