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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:39 am 
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will get back to you all next week. it goes in on wednesday


So Wednesday has come and gone.. you up and running now?


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Dont know if i should post this info here, but as this is pretty much the longest turbo related thread I am hoping more people will read this. Regarding the zage turbos, I've found info on turbos made by the same company Zage, on http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44654. It would seem that some of those turbo exploded. Read on to find out more. That leads on to more info here :http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131159. To those that are thinking of turbocharging the swift, read and decide whether you would risk your car for this taiwanese turbo... as for me, if I decide to turbo my swift I would knock on Dave's door :D

By the way dave, where is your shop?


Good info, if you do plan to buy one of these kits.. by all means read the above threads.


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I can see it now, your driving down the road and BANG :shock: First you would think you blew the engine to find out its the turbo that exploded. Wonder how the warranty work went the bits of turbo got through the engine.

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If anyone is even thinking of buying a Zage turbo kit(which is the ONLY one available commercialy) the above links are a absolute MUST read.
I knew there were dodgy turbos around ,but Ive just read the whole articles in those links and its opened my eyes considerably.Well worth spending some time to read.
It makes it even harder to choose what to buy ,even more so over the internet, when you go to buy a known good brand such as HKS or SARD and you realise later that all youve bought is a shitty copy.
I bought a copy Sard reg once from a shop(being told it was genuine), it certainly looked genuine ,but within hours of fitting it I was very lucky not to have blown my engine up.The boost line on the top of the reg blew apart,causing the engine to run lean, the car was on a dyno at the time and the tuner caught it very quickly.
Read the links and you will see the damage these knock offs are causing to the tuning industry.

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I will run my new swift turbo ,


Post your results afterwards .. i am curious ..


My swift is running on a ZAGE kit. Still with no problems. :wink:


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Still no words from Mr Focus, I am starting to worry..... :?


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Yeah it's been 3 weeks since it was meant to be going in?

Wiring on the eManage must be tricky :lol:

Any updates Mr. Focus?


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Mr Focus -The wireing for the Emanage is approx two hrs work, if they cant figure that out I would start worrying about how they are going to tune it!!.They have obviously never fitted one before and you are the mug who has to cop their incompetance.


i dunno

robbie at 101 took forever on my emanage ;)

this may not be the case with new swifts vs a mk3 though.

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Our opinions on the quality of the turbo kits put to one side, I think in fairness we should give Mr. Focus some credit for actually putting some effort into the performance of his Swift, and not just more of the maligned "rice mods" we've come to expect. 8)

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Our opinions on the quality of the turbo kits put to one side, I think in fairness we should give Mr. Focus some credit for actually putting some effort into the performance of his Swift, and not just more of the maligned "rice mods" we've come to expect. 8)



Hmmm, I lurrvvveeee rice!! Stay tuned for my next ricey add-on!!! 8)

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Our opinions on the quality of the turbo kits put to one side, I think in fairness we should give Mr. Focus some credit for actually putting some effort into the performance of his Swift, and not just more of the maligned "rice mods" we've come to expect. 8)


lol I think we are all looking at Mr Focus as sort of like a pioneer in the field of Taiwanese turbo :) I for one would prefer to keep my car stock looking but with a turbo kit. However, after my little run at Glorious I am beginning to think that a brake upgrade would be useful before i think about turbo :?

If the Taiwanese turbo can perform at a similar level of reliability as its more expensive rivals, I believe we will see many more turbo swift on the road :)


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If the Taiwanese turbo can perform at a similar level of reliability as its more expensive rivals, I believe we will see many more turbo swift on the road :)


Not sure why this is the case.. it only costs marginally more to get the job done right ;) ..not really 'expensive rivals'.

Hrm. Mr Focus hasn't posted since 19th of June.. anyone know where he has gone?


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Well lets look at the options

1, His turbo conversion has been a nightmare and he does not want to elaborate.

2, He is on holidays or unable to post for another reason.

3, His turbo was working fine but suddenly exploded two kilometres down the road from the workshop causing the motor to seize resulting in a 30m lockup into a passing sewerage tanker. (with terrible results)

4, His turbo is working fine just like designparts, but seeing the large number of derogatory comments could not be f*#@ed posting as he does not need to prove anything to anyone.

I guess only one person can tell us the true story. Any speculation until then is just horse sh*t (that includes this post) :D


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Well lets look at the options

1, His turbo conversion has been a nightmare and he does not want to elaborate.

2, He is on holidays or unable to post for another reason.

3, His turbo was working fine but suddenly exploded two kilometres down the road from the workshop causing the motor to seize resulting in a 30m lockup into a passing sewerage tanker. (with terrible results)

4, His turbo is working fine just like designparts, but seeing the large number of derogatory comments could not be f*#@ed posting as he does not need to prove anything to anyone.

I guess only one person can tell us the true story. Any speculation until then is just horse sh*t (that includes this post) :D


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woah..... this took of quickly hahaha

the real reason is i have no net access at home anymore, so im sneaking on here at work ;)

also, the reason for the turbo kit not being fitted yet is that the kit comes with an E-Manage Gold. From what Greddy have told me, this unit is not manufactured by Greddy and is a rip off of the emanage product. those who have fitted this product to their cars have had it lean out and blow their engines apart

my local dealership have sent their demo car down to Haltech to get a whole new ECU made, which will also be fitted to mine. if i have to wait another 6 months, i don't really care as a haltech will give greater support and options in the long run over an emanage. im calling them today to see whats doin

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my local dealership have sent their demo car down to Haltech to get a whole new ECU made, which will also be fitted to mine. if i have to wait another 6 months, i don't really care as a haltech will give greater support and options in the long run over an emanage. im calling them today to see whats doin

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Couldn't you have just used a genuine Greddy Emanage?

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Mr. Focus wrote:
also, the reason for the turbo kit not being fitted yet is that the kit comes with an E-Manage Gold. From what Greddy have told me, this unit is not manufactured by Greddy and is a rip off of the emanage product. those who have fitted this product to their cars have had it lean out and blow their engines apart


*gasp*.. so you're telling me there are non genuine items in the turbo kit? I don't believe it! :roll:

As for Haltech getting a whole new ECU made, my guess is they will be making a plugin for the E6X or similar? We have already had someone on the forum drop their car off at Haltech for exactly the same thing?

http://www.redlinegti.com/forum/vt.26861.htm

You do realise that there are alternatives to this kit that are race proven? it uses a genuine eManage, genuine turbo and you won't be waiting for someone else's R&D. Not only that, the cost is pretty much the same :?


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I cannot believe what I read here a bout the E mange gold. We got the turbo Swift designparts running fine. OK it is not perfect but at least it dos not blow up the engine.
It’s not only filling in all the parameters in the E greddy but you have to confirm that the AFR is not to lean.

Read this if you want. I think there can be some use full info in there about the E mange http://www.redlinegti.com/forum/vtj.25279.htm

To bad I have way to many work but I hope to start fitting a Adaptronic ECU on the designparts car soon so I hope this will also be an option for the 05 swift and we don’t have to build it. Just fit it and configure it.
The engine is not that far of a Baleno engine if it comes to the sensors and signals.
Will keep you informed and I think the Adaptronic ECU will have a better price as well with 999 Aus $ en 700Euro here in Holland.

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Hey, it's me, the guy who started the threads on the 8th gen civic forums! Just wanted to pop in and say "IF YOU BUY ONE OF THESE TURBO KITS, YOU ARE MAD!" From experience, these things are junk. I'm sure Taiwan sent out some perfect turbos for you all to "test," just don't think that they sent you all production units.

Like I said in the threads, the production units are JUNK. Made in sweat shops. Counterfeit. Just like the ECU in the kit.

Cheers!


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[YLD80Y] wrote:
Our opinions on the quality of the turbo kits put to one side, I think in fairness we should give Mr. Focus some credit for actually putting some effort into the performance of his Swift, and not just more of the maligned "rice mods" we've come to expect. 8)


Sir

With all due respect, I am pretty sure Mr. Focus didn't pay anything for this kit. It was distributed to him as a means of product promotion, or he even has an interest in selling or distributing the kits.

If not, respect is certainly due, but I feel quite bad for him because of my negative experiences with these ZAGE counterfeits.

Mr. Focus-do you have any pictures of the turbo itself? I would guess it is a oil cooled td04 knock off? If so, it is a turbo that CHSH/ZAGE makes for the asia market PAJERO (diesel.) If so, get yourself a MELETT Pajero core and replace the unit before it goes to heaven.

Thanks for the space!

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