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 Post subject: G13BA mark4 converted to a GTi (mk4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Hi boys and girls! :)

First of all; English is my second language so I am sorry for the mistakes.

I was 6 when I saw a white Mk2 GTi in a catalogue and I have wanted to own one since then. It was love for the first sight. :)

Two years ago I started searching for a GTi but most of the GTi's are in horrible condition here in Hungary, so I decided to buy an Mk4 and build a GTi instead of buying a genuine one. The car is getting its new heart these weeks, it will be ready on Sunday. I will post pics of the fitted engine then.

Let me show you how she looked like when I bought her:
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It was one of a limited serie (so called "Sport V") of Mk4s built in 2002 March. The factory built them with GTi rear wings and comfortable GS seats covered with plush carpet. The interior is still like new.
I did not like the wheels because of their size (they were only 13s) so I decided to buy 4 new Momo rims and new Goodyear tires.


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Since winter came I had to wait until spring to fit them.

It looked like a tractor :D It was too high, the Mk4 has too high springs. So I decided to buy a set of lowering springs. In the meantime I was also able to get a GTi transmission and a complete rear suspension with rear brake discs. They both ran 40000 kms and are in excellent condition, the brake calipers still have the factory-greenish colour! I decided to fit the GTi's rear suspension when we built in the lowering springs. We also changed the front brake system to GTi brakes. It also got new pads and discs.

I think it became much better.

And finally I found a great donor car, a mark3 GTi from Switzerland, it had only ran 140000 kms. The engine was in perfect condition.

Later I decided to paint the "B and C columns" (I do not know how you call them :( )

She also got new spark plugs:

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:03 pm 
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Oh, sorry for the big pics. :(

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:08 pm 
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Could you please post a clearer picture of the front end? I am fascinated by that modern looking front bar! :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:11 pm 
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Of course. I posted one, but the site that I uploaded my pics to seems to have some problem with them.

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:14 pm 
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The car looks like this now:


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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:35 pm 
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I really like this front bumper, it is not on all MK4 models, hard to get :)

What about the front suspension, have you already changed anything? To bad you had do import the car from switzerland,
i have 4 GTi in parts in slovenia. if you will need anything just say.

Keep up the good work. Have you already changed the wiring of the car?


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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:51 pm 
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Thank you mate! :)

Here in Hungary the junkyards are full of this type of front bumper. :) It is so common, I hate it... My GTi will have MK3 bumpers just as yours has, I like those the best. It will also get factory lipkit and fender flares. And I am planning to respray the whole car to dark blue (mazda or subaru blue) and would like to change the rims to Rota Torque (bronze, or grey). So a lot of work is to come in the following years. :) And I will need a lot of money to spend :D The car is already in about 9000 USD and this amount is rising.

Yes, the wiring is ready. It was a bit tricky since the car has 2 front airbags, etc.
The whole build is a bit tricky since I do not use the original GTi engine. The engine block remains the block of the 1.3 8valve engine in order to keep the engine number.
We have a lot of controls on the roads during which the police checks the numbers. I do not want to lose the papers of the car. :lol: : So the block remains the 2002 block and we change everything else. :) The engine will be stock GTi but with a bit risen compression.

Yes, the front suspension became GTi, too, I forgot to mention it. :) The car has GTi brakes in the front. It will also get 4 new shocks in March.

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:07 pm 
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Is it so bad with numbers??? I have papers for 60 HP :) Maybe we can start working together, this parts for MK4 here are hard to get especialy light, hoods, bumpers. What are the prices there for this stuff?


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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:32 pm 
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Yes.

My original plan was to build an 1600 DOHC GTi, but I changed my mind because of the police.

I do not think that trading with these parts is a good idea because of the price. For example a hood is about 110 USD without postage.
I think we could not sell the parts so expensive to gain enough profit.

Something else: it seems that I will be able to get A/C for you, my friend will call me in the evening.

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:38 pm 
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Great work Z GT-i !!!

I like the look of your Mk4, it has a Subaru Liberty vibe! :wink:

Those Momo rims look pretty wide - are they 7"? Nice!

Nice to see your efforts!! =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:44 pm 
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Thanks for your friendly comment Capt_Gherkin! :)

The rims are 6,5" wide. They are 6,5x15 ET38 Momo Ten S Black Rims. :) I would not buy them again, since they are a bit heavier than I expected (about 6,8 kgs/rim)
I would like to buy Rota Torques and sell them in the future. Rotas are much lighter (5,5 kgs/rim).

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:48 pm 
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NO shipping, van party :)

OK great let me know for A/C.


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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:40 am 
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Nice build mate,looks good.interesting front bar too

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:09 pm 
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Thank you azza91!

This front bar is very common here in Hungary. A Suzuki factory was built here in the early '90s which produced this older
Swift model till 2003. Suzuki wanted to modernize the look of the car from time to time but in the hungarian people's opinion these
efforts were not so successful. The cars' look got more and more bad, we think. Cars with this look that mine has were built
from the end of 2001 to 2003.
I personally hate these front and rear bars, as I have mentioned before, I will change them to Mk3 ones.

Anyway, do you guys on redlinegti like this kind of bumper? It would be a very interesting thing to recognize. :o :)

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
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Great work =D> =D> =D> ,

Factory lipkit (MK3) and fender flares from the junkyards or from a factory shop ?
What are the prices there for this stuff?
(you are very lucky with the suzuki factory near you)

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:24 pm 
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Please let me show you another build from Hungary. It is the most beautiful GTi I have ever seen (because it is so clean). It is even more beautiful live.
This project took a year to be finished because all the work was done by my friend himself who owns the GTi. Nearly every part of the car has been changed to a new one.
Despite of its name it is not a JDM Cultus GTi, just a european one. The reason for the namechange is that he thinks that "Cultus" is a more beautiful word than the "Swift" :)
In the term GT-R the R signs his nickname (Reseda). He do not use the car every day, he has an MK4 for that. It has never seen water since the rebuild for it is a thing that his owner is very very proud of and he wants to keep it in the same condition in the following 20-30 years. :) He wanted to build a completely stock car with some modifications he thought to be right.

There are 327 Pictures in the gallery about the building. Mine will be rebuilt the same way once I have the right amount of money. (in some years, maybe... :D)

Let us know what you think about his car.

http://www.kep.tar.hu/resedamotors/50542301/35019137#2

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:58 pm 
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Z GT-i,

Please thank your friend for taking the time to photograph his build in such detail! =D> I think that it will be a great source of information for me when I start my own build soon.

Here in Western Australia, we do not have the same problems with rust as it is a very dry climate (similar to the European Mediterranean Countries). It must be good for you lucky people in Hungary to have the Suzuki (Magyar) factory located nearby though!

Best Regards,

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:05 pm 
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Thank you, you are very kind. And it was a kind and interesting thing from you that you know that my people is called "magyar" in hungarian :)
You are lucky that you do not have rust problems, here in Hungary because of the winters (especially because the salt that is dispersed on the roads against the ice) all of the Swifts begin to rust.
It is a very interesting thing that hungarian people do not like Suzuki (those who do not own one). Suzukis are looked down, because they were produced here and because they have a weak body. People prefers cars that are much bigger and preferably built by Germany... Hungarians are very interesting, sometimes I do not like my own people. :)

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:51 pm 
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Z GT-i wrote:
It is a very interesting thing that hungarian people do not like Suzuki (those who do not own one). Suzukis are looked down, because they were produced here and because they have a weak body. People prefers cars that are much bigger and preferably built by Germany... Hungarians are very interesting, sometimes I do not like my own people. :)
Hahaha! I think that Hungarians may be a little bit like the people here in Perth WA! Although, Suzuki in Western Australia has been generally gaining in popularity in the recent years (mostly because of the new Swifts I believe).

However, because the 'old' Swift GTI's are relatively unkown and rare over here in the West, I usually get very little respect from other drivers- until they find themselves left behind! I sometimes have to mention that my car is really a hot import version of the more familiar Australian-released 'Holden Barina' to gain any credibilty at all! :( Western Australians seem to prefer their big 6 cylinder/ V8 cars and Holden and Ford are the big manufacturers here... :roll:

köszönöm! :)

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 Post subject: Re: A GTi build from Hungary (base car is MK4 2002)
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The new heart of the car started beating yesterday at 5PM CET. :) It's exhaust system has a wonderful sound and the engine runs very smooth. I nearly started crying when it awakened because of the happiness I felt. :oops: :D One of my dreams came true I hope you understand it. :)


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