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 Post subject: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:08 pm 
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Just wondering how people carry out maintenance on these filters?

The Power Filter website says to blow out dirt/dust from inside the conical filter every 5000km with air from a compressor.

Unless I'm mistaken, it looks like it's made of the same cotton material as K&N filters which you wash & then re-treat with the K&N filter kit.

Has anyone used this to clean/maintain their filters?

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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:00 pm 
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I probably should look at my monster sport panel filter again ... it's been about 20,000kms lol You're right though, they apparently can be washed and re-oiled. Regular maintenance would be every 5000kms .


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:45 pm 
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Hey Vuk. If you are talking about the Monster sport pod filter, you just blow the dust out and wash in water. These filters do not require oiling. Only thee monster sport panel filters do.


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:52 pm 
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Thanks Macca, I was just thinking if it's made of the same material as a K&N it would need the same treatment after you wash it? It's not the same as the oil you use with foam filters, not as thick.

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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:48 pm 
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I know it's an old-ish thread but.....all info is good!

I was advised by (MSE) Monster Sport Europe regarding the SA13 Foam Panel Power Filter for the Ignis and here's what was said:

We recommend washing the filter with warm slightly soapy water, leave to dry properly and reinstall dry. Oiling of these filters leads to contamination of the (MAF) Mass Airflow Meter.

Basically saying that these "Filter Cleaning Kits" are a waste of money. (I was willing to buy one of these kits from themselves but instead of saying..yeah gimme your money..they gave helpful info...so kudos to Nicky.)

So this is what I would follow in this regard and hope it helps others


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:31 pm 
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Ive been running the KnN filter ,for ages now I just wash it out with the cleaning fluid from the kit then reoil with the oil spray from the kit never had a prob at all . :)


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:38 pm 
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IGNIS SPORT wrote:
Ive been running the KnN filter ,for ages now I just wash it out with the cleaning fluid from the kit then reoil with the oil spray from the kit never had a prob at all . :)


Is that a paper filter?

Previous post is for the foam panel filters from Power Fillter.


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:34 am 
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Made off sythetic fibre .Bloody good thoe buy once and never have to worry about buying again.Dont think those pod type filters offer any real noticable performance gain,just more induction noise thoe some will argue. :)


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:25 pm 
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yeah, I was talking about the PFX400 pod filter that looks like they're made from cotton, like the K&N filtes, not the foam filters
I'll bite the bullet & apply some K&N spray oil when I clean it in a few months

Not sure about the comment of not re-oiling the foam filters, the whole point of the oil is to trap the dust/dirt & prevent it entering the engine

I've used foam filters for over 15 years, just wash it in terps followed by water, let it dry & re-oil, never had any problems

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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:16 pm 
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I think these pod ,k&n etc type filters work well for convenience and over time you do save a few $ ,but as I see it ,the engine can only breathe in X amount of air ,unless the filters or inductions blocked or to small then a bigger filter and induction not going to do anything better unless you require more air .(thru forced induction).I believe the induction system that comes standard on the IS is more then capable of doing the job,im yet to be persuaded otherwise. :)


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 4:52 pm 
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I originally took off the factory resonator & attached a flexible tube to the airbox
The tube went to the front of the car behine the LH side of the grille
This cold air intake was definitely a step up in performance
The PFX400 is another step up again

See my posts under Ignis Sport Rampod re the SS air intake, photos included

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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:16 am 
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I have the Apollo k&n filter kit with the totally enclosed filter pod and cold air feed, it is a pretty good setup. Just have to remember not to over oil the filter when cleaning it.


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:22 pm 
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Well I finally had it confirmed that the PFX400 pod filter is made of a cotton material and not paper, just like the K&Ns. Apparently they can be used oiled or dry

K&N prefer them being oiled
SAAS filters, which you can by at Autobarn, can be oiled or dry

Foam filters HAVE to be oiled

Found a SAAS with the same diameter as the PFX400, but slightly bigger overall
Still fits within the SS fibreglass air intake so I can use this one as a spare when cleaning the PFX. I've oiled it with some K&N oil I had lying around

I'll get around to washing & reoiling the PFX next weekend
It will be interesting to compare the performance of the filter by washing/reoiling it rather than just blowing out the excess dirt and using it dry & then replacing it every 40,000 km

Either way I still save $$ as the filters cost $120 from Japan!

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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:43 pm 
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The main issue with the oil filters is over oiling them after cleaning. You only require a light application of oil for them to be effective, and not to affect or coat any of the sensors.


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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:22 pm 
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yep, that's right

You lightly cover the cotton, let it air for 20 mins, then touch up the white spots left over
I think I'll buy the K&N oil in the spray can next time, easier to apply than using the bottle

For foam filters, I used to put the oil in a freezer bag then stick the foam filter inside & press the oil into the foam, rather than applying directly to the foam

I found that used to apply way too much oil, clogging the filter

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 Post subject: Re: PFX400 air filters
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:33 pm 
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Just posting some PFX400 porn... and yeah, was just under $120 delivered.


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