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 Post subject: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:48 pm 
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Looking for a new car to replace my Ignis Sport which is getting close to it's last legs (or costing more than it's worth)

What I am looking for is:
  • Rear which suits 5 year old whose going to be TALL
  • Decent stereo system or Double din Headunit so it can be easily upgraded
  • RELIABLE
  • Max budget of $20,000
  • Reasonable on fuel (lets say 9L/100kms)
  • 5 Star safety with rear airbags
  • some poke
  • fun to drive enthusiastically
  • More an all rounder so has to have day to day practicality and comfort
  • Manual?

Mazda's are out as I had a soul crushing bad experience with a Mazda 6 Diesel that cost me $20,000. Hyundai's and Mitsubishi's would require considerable convincing as I think they are all rubbish but never owned one. I am thinking primarily, Subaru, Honda or Suzuki. Current thoughts are an Impreza, Kizashi or Civic. I diced with a Ford Fiesta ST or Suzuki Swift Sport but too small I think to be practical. The Honda Accord Euro ticks most boxes: http://www.caradvice.com.au/218812/hond ... -review-2/


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:16 pm 
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Toyota Rukus (Build 2 or 3). Corolla chassis with Camry power. If the styling isn't appealing then look at an Aurion V6.
The Accord is a solid car too.

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:45 pm 
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How many k's on your Ignis Sport now?


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:14 pm 
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Ford Focus Petrol Turbo Manual 4 door

or

Lancer turbo.

or

any other turbo 4 door hatch Hyundai etc

Don't buy European

Don't buy a turbo diesel car, they are so boring and uninspiring to drive.

Believe 1/10 of what you read.

Test Drive as many different cars you can. This will determine what car that suits you best.

Buy the most powerful car you can.

Good luck dealing with car salesmen "your best mate".

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:27 pm 
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bzchi wrote:
How many k's on your Ignis Sport now?

260,000kms. Though not that accurate as I had an engine swap because the head gasket went in the first one.

They are practically giving the Kizashis away at the moment... The manual version looks ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:30 pm 
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racer5 wrote:
Ford Focus Petrol Turbo Manual 4 door

or

Lancer turbo.

or

any other turbo 4 door hatch Hyundai etc

They are all out of the running, don't trust the reliability of any of those manufacturers, heard too many horror stories such as: http://www.productreview.com.au/p/hyundai-veloster.html

I've already had my own personal one with a Mazda Diesel (so yeah won't get a diesel again either).


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:34 pm 
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racer5 wrote:
Buy the most powerful car you can.

Meh, those days are behind me, can't afford the speeding tickets. I'd go for fuel efficiency, handling and fun to drive any day of the week.


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:57 pm 
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The Lancer Ralliart (which is what you'd be getting for $20k 2nd hand) only has the option of a DSG gearbox, and apparently they're not the most reliable bit of equipment. Fuel efficiency is terrible too.
To be fair, the VRX with it's 2.5L N/A motor is a great all-round car if you can live with the underpinnings being a decade old. My mother's 2012 Lancer has been flawless since new.

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:23 pm 
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Have a Sus at the Ford Focus XR5 (Mondeo XR5 is nice too with it's adaptive Cruise etc control no auto option either :D ), I've got one of these from 2012, currently throwing 205kw ATW out of it and only chucked 3,500 into it from stock.. Has not had any issues, they run the Volvo T5 5 Pot engine from the factory. Big names behind it, (Getrag Gearbox, Borgwarner Turbo Charger, Volvo Power plant) s**t tons of torque. A few bolt ons and flash tune raises the KW ATW by 50kw. they run about 9 psi stock. engines are goo till 18psi. nice size too... love it. 5 Star ANCAP Rating Fantastic all rounder. Giving it a minor squirt every now and then sees my economy hover in the high 8's and low 9's on a full tune with 3" Turbo back system, 440cc injectors, Larger Intercooler etc basicly all the bolt ons

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:06 pm 
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[YLD80Y] wrote:
The Lancer Ralliart (which is what you'd be getting for $20k 2nd hand) only has the option of a DSG gearbox, and apparently they're not the most reliable bit of equipment. Fuel efficiency is terrible too.
To be fair, the VRX with it's [colour=#FF0000]2.4[/colour]L N/A motor is a great all-round car if you can live with the underpinnings being a decade old. My mother's 2012 Lancer has been flawless since new.


As long as you're planning to hang onto a Mitsubishi as a long term ownership, the resale shouldn't be an issue. I agree with Brayden that reliability is generally pretty good - my in-laws have also had a good run with their '08 and there have been plenty of product improvements in the meantime.
Capped price servicing is also pretty reasonable compared to other makers, and there's the 5 year warranty too.
With the back seat headroom being important, the CJ/CF Lancer isn't going to do the job, so consider a manual ASX - same mechanicals and heaps of both headroom and cargo area. Availability of a used manual transmission ASX could be a problem as the majority of sold units are the CVT (and you don't want one of them :evil: ) With a bit of intense negotiation, you may be able to pick up a new manual ASX for low 20's...

Re the Kizashi - have you checked out the rear seat headroom? I agree that you should be able to get a good deal - be prepared to shop around as they are also a bit of a scarce commodity.
If you think that you want to go down this track, send me a PM and I will contact Suzuki Qld to see which dealers have them in stock.

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:34 pm 
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Rear seat in the ASX we looked at was like sitting on a park bench.
We've recently bought a brand new Skoda Yeti (FWD 1.2T 6spd Man) and although it lacks a bit in power, it handles bloody great in the twisties. Has decent rear seats and good headroom (I'm 6ft and am comfortable). Brand new can be had for $25k, so 2nd hand should be able to find something in your budget.


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:34 pm 
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Stay away from kizashi they have the worst engine Suzuki have used in years, heads crack,blocks crack ,noisy cams,piston slap.you name it they have it and before you get to 100,000klms, you will pay around $4500 for a secondhand engine because everyone with a kizashi or grand vitara needs to replace theirs.
Plus they have the worst nightmares with electrics going wrong,definately another suzuki lemon.

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:53 pm 
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Whoa Dave guess you've come across a few bad experiences!
I haven't heard of any issues with this engine all I've seen are glowing reviews. If I don't go Kizashi it's back to drawing board. Might just end up going stuff it and getting the WRX I've always wanted...


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:37 am 
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Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk.5 ticks all the boxes...

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:35 pm 
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Just don't know if I can buy a VW ethically after the emissions scandal. Than again I think all manufacturers need to lift their game...

My Ignis has 260,000kms now. The Fuel indicator is now not working once it drops to 25%, paranoid about running out of fuel was into the emergency tank the other week and I didn't realise. There's also an occasional squealing from the rear brakes? when changing lanes on the freeway. It's been solid and I have thrashed it but early next year it's got to go.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:53 am 
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beyondtool wrote:
Just don't know if I can buy a VW ethically after the emissions scandal. Than again I think all manufacturers need to lift their game...

My Ignis has 260,000kms now. The Fuel indicator is now not working once it drops to 25%, paranoid about running out of fuel was into the emergency tank the other week and I didn't realise. There's also an occasional squealing from the rear brakes? when changing lanes on the freeway. It's been solid and I have thrashed it but early next year it's got to go.


The emissions scandal has caused the values of VW products to take a serious tumble - just ask anyone who has tried to trade one in :(
That said, it means that they are a pretty good secondhand purchase as long as one is prepared to disregard the publicity - after all, you're not putting any money into the manufacturers' pockets when buying a used example...


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:11 pm 
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Well I'm still thinking about this!!

I've ruled out VW, i don't think they will be around in 12 months time and parts is going to be a serious issue. http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/10/facin ... om-europe/

I saw a Kia Koup Turbo the other day, blue in colour. I fell in love with it. Seems they didn't sell well in OZ, but an underrated car. Same engine as the Hyundai Veloster for better or worse. Ticks all my boxes. I'm looking at test driving one.


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:01 pm 
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beyondtool wrote:
Well I'm still thinking about this!!

I've ruled out VW, i don't think they will be around in 12 months time and parts is going to be a serious issue.


You're joking right, worlds No1 selling automobile... they're not going anywhere, every manufacturer is dealing with some issue, whether its sticking accelerator pedals, self deploying airbags or catching on fire like the Ford Kuga.

As for Ethics, Hyundai and Kia aren't exactly honest either
http://jalopnik.com/hyundai-and-kia-out ... 1654019291

Ever since the day my 3y/o Hyundai with 50k on the clock split a rear main seal and dumped oil all over my driveway I have vowed to never buy one again, everyone has their own experiences I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:22 pm 
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With all the crap that VW have coped resale did suffer, but it is the perfect time to buy if you plan on holding on to it and driving it.

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 Post subject: Re: Pick my next Car
PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:05 pm 
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The US are the biggest wankers when you consider the BS fines they are hitting VAG with. Never mind their biggest sellers over there are F trucks..... wonder how they compare in emissions to a 2L turbo diesel that has a bit of a fiddle?


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