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 Post subject: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:41 pm 
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I'm looking to run ARP Head Studs, Main & Connecting Rod Bolts. Only solid part# I came up with so far from searching through the forum is the head stud kit which is for the M50 BMW motor with a part number of 201-4302, which they seem to have changed from the number 201-4603 according to the topic some years ago.

So the part# for the ARP Head Studs as of 2013: 201-4302 - BMW M50, 2.5L 6-cylinder 12pt Head Stud Kit-*Washers need to be machined to fit*

About the mains I found a thread saying 201-5000 and then one saying 201-5001 is it....There is no solid evidence for the correct main...the 201-5000 is the BMW M50 2-Bolt kit, the 201-5001 is the M10 kit..Anyone knows what is the correct main kit to fit the G13?

ARP Main Kit: 201-500?

For the connecting rod bolts I plan on running the SPOOL forged con rods which already come with ARP bolts but for those who wants to run ARP with stock rods.

ARP Rod Bolts for stock rods: 208-6001 - Honda/Acura 1.2L & 1.6L M8
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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:27 am 
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Also just got confirmation that ARP part # (P/N:251-4702) for Ford Zetec 2.0L works with the G13B and you get the amount needed and not have extra studs like the BMW kit... Only con is the top of the studs doesn't carry the allen bit groove to easily screw the studs into the block, also the washers need to be machined.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:56 pm 
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ARP Flywheel Bolts : P/N:203-2802 (Toyota 4AGE) - Does NOT work

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:08 pm 
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I believe the same ARP flywheel bolts also suit a falcon flywheel.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:19 am 
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Has anyone used these rod bolts? i have bought a set to fit to my standard rods and they appear very loose in the conrod and conrod cap, has anyone noticed and is it a problem, I am a mechanic and never seen them this loose, unsure if I should trust them.


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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:28 am 
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The Honda con rod bolts are not the correct size ,as you say they are loose in the rod, however a certain Suzuki specialist in Sydney has been fitting these bolts for quite a while and I haven't heard of any failures.
With something so important as rod bolts I don't think its worth taking the risk,especially now that you can buy aftermarket H beam rods so cheaply.
For anyone looking for ARP headstuds for g13b I keep them in stock and supply them with machined down ARP hardnend head stud washers of the correct grade to suit the g13b head.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:58 pm 
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Try SuzukiRD.com.

http://www.pt2w.com/srd/index.php?main_ ... q9ipdbpqr1

$145 + Postage ($70) US dollars.

Model: SUZ-ARP-6134


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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:24 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:09 pm 
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ARP203-2802 do not fit the GTi.
They are too long by quite a margin. About all that fits is the thread. flywheel would need recessing to suit radiused shank.
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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:33 am 
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Ask for the flywheel bolts for a Toyota 4age engine they do fit, the part no above must be wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:18 pm 
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Well its a mystery, according to the ARP website the UHL is 1.050 Inches or 26.7mm.
The part number on the sticker and the package corresponds to Toyota 4AG M10 and that illustrated on ARP's website.
How thick is the centre of the GTi Flywheel as these ARP's bottomed out with some 5-6mm before clamping he flywheel? maybe the justy flywheel is just that much thinner at the mount despite being 8.75 kg's...though the engine had as lightweight GTi flywheel attached

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 5:45 pm 
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Is there another listing for a 4agze, there is one of the toyota ARP bolts that is correct in length it also has a much larger head on the bolt than the ones shown above.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:42 pm 
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I've used new Toyota 4AGZE flywheel bolts on our GTi's.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:53 pm 
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I've bought and tried ARP 4AG flywheel bolts P/N 203-2802... They don't work for these reasons...

1 - They are too long, had them machined down to length.
2 - The bolt head was too tall, and it struck the clutch disc spline hub... and there isn't enough material on the head of the bolt to remove for the correct height head.
3 - Using a SuzukiRD Aluminium flywheel, the bolt shoulder doesn't fit into the holes of the flywheel.. Could be easily machined out a larger hole to suit the bolt but with the bolt head being too tall and not working, made no sense modifying the flywheel to make the bolts fit..

Cheers, hope this helps anyone in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:40 am 
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so why does ARP have two bolts with the same part number?
Can someone with the 'right' working bolts post up a picture next to a ruler? and packaging for reference.

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:15 am 
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Seems like the 4AGE & 4AGZE bolts are the same.

The next set of bolts I'll be trying is the Opel 2L 16v bolts... Same thread pitch, are shorter than the 4AGE bolts but carries a 3/4" bolt head instead of the smaller 1/2" like the 4AGE. With this I'll have to machine the recess where the bolt holes of the flywheel are to make more room for the 3/4" bolt heads of the Opel bolts.. Even when using the stock swift bolts on the Aasco flywheel, they rub the recess lip.

Before I do the order I'll thoroughly look through ARP's website to be sure they aren't any other bolts that will be better suited than the Opel.

Anyone knows what a M10x1.12 bolt in US measurements would equate to?

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:53 pm 
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Found me some arp flywheel bolts that may work, with a bolt head that is similar to the stock bolt heads which shouldn't interfere with the clutch disc spline hub.

Will have the bolt length cut down and the flywheel holes drilled slightly to fit the bolt shoulder for a snug fit and get back on the fitment..If they do work, that should wrap it up for ARP head, main, rod and flywheel bolts on G series engines. Fingers crossed!

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:00 am 
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Did anyone actually work out the correct flywheel bolts to get? I ordered based on the part number and looking up the 4AGZE bolts as above and got the same ones as GTP :(

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 Post subject: Re: G13B ARP Part #s
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:37 pm 
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Okay to finalise the flywheel bolt part number for everyone it is a surprisingly obvious one! For the GTi flywheel use the M16A ARP bolts! #-o They are an exact match in length, thread and head size! I have tested one of these in my car and they are all good to go when I get some locktite!

Part Number is 171-2801

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