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 Post subject: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:20 pm 
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So I'm new and have decided to exspress my opinion/ actions I am doing
I am mid rebuild of my g16b/a that will go into my vitara and will be recieving a upgrade in the way of a turbo :) I'll post pics and more info tomorrow let me know your thoughts thanks:)


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:15 am 
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Hi!

Welcome to our forum. =D>

I like your choice of car! It has been the basis of a few notable race wins in its time... This particular one being the most famous of all:

http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/04/twi ... ki-escudo/

Good luck with your build!

Cheers,

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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:20 pm 
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Apparently the important pieces are the crankcase, steering wheel and grill you will need to replace everything else. It's a drawing a pretty low bow between the two but yes there is definitely potential there.

They also are surprising capable off road.

The motor has been proven to take a bit of boost and it should net some reasonable power gains.

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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:00 pm 
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I have been doing as much research as I can between work and moving house so sorry if it takes a while to reply
What I have done so far. I picked up the complete vehicle for about $650 when I got it back to my place I tried starting it with no luck so I started pulling the motor to bits and found a crack in the head aswell as one in the block. :( so I sourced another head and started pulling the motor out of my swb wich is carb i pulled it down completely I am at a point now where I have to go through an dclean up the block, crank, old head (so it's eaiser to pull the old stuff out and put in the new head) and check that I have all the parts I need
New forged rods out of g13b, new forged pistons, new water and oil pumps, timing belt kit, complete seals and gasket kit , new head. Still need to buy bottem end and rod bearings.


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:17 pm 
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This afternoon I began cleaning up the block with some degreaser
Pretty boring but haven't got much else to do and it's the only thing currently at my place everything else is at my uncles


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:17 pm 
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Crack in the old block between cylinder 3 and 4

Feel free to add any comment or and questions you have


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:29 pm 
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g13b internals? you going g13b or doing up the g16b?
both very different engine hardly any internals interchange eg. rods, pistons or crank!

just use the g13b the early g16 blocks and heads tend to crack are inferior alloy casted


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:01 pm 
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I'm doing up the g16b and am using g13b forged rods everything else is g16b components


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:36 pm 
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Turbo vit wrote:
I'm doing up the g16b and am using g13b forged rods everything else is g16b components


I wouldn't waste my time turbocharging the g16 motor
That crack you have now, you will get used to that sight
They're nothing like the gti motors
You'd think being a closed deck block that it Would be great and better than the g13b design but unfortunately not


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:46 am 
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I dont think you read my post, you cant use any rods from a g13b into a g16b

The late motors go better with boost which you dont have
The crack in between the bores is no issue as the steel sleeves
prevent further cracking but it looks like you have a weak early block.
Not all early blocks are bad but most are 4 out of 5 so consider that

Just use the g13b with boost and never look back


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:21 am 
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I can't use the 13b because it's going into a vitara and I have a second block in good condition the first one was overheated and has a large crack in the head aswell the new one was treated nicely all it's life and has no problems


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 11:59 am 
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Point still stands that g13b rods won't work in a g16 engine.

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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:39 pm 
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Turbo vit wrote:
I can't use the 13b because it's going into a vitara and I have a second block in good condition the first one was overheated and has a large crack in the head aswell the new one was treated nicely all it's life and has no problems


Your wasting your time


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:55 am 
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unless you buy some spool or similar rods, boosting a g16b is risky with factory rods
they have very small weak rod bolts not to mention politicians penile girth.

Best just run a stock G16b or do a v6 commonhoe conversion will be cheaper
as the donks can be had for butt wipe prices. You can pick up a complete hoe
with some bushpigs still in it if you wait outside any wreckers when they are
traded in for some beer money.


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 8:49 pm 
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my mate made 105kw atw in his vitara with G16b

He pulled the pin and put a sr20 turbo in and never looked back

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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:59 am 
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g16b is a very good engine stock and even with a bit of work
but need a late block and needs good rods to be worthy.

There are plenty g16bs that are fanged daily to 7k in older
Vitaras as well but most eventually crack under the starter
the later baleno blocks dont have this earlier poor casting
which was also more prominent on the heads.

The cheapest upgrade is still a stock engine after that
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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
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Forgot I had this post.
Update on the build. I got a set of forged g16 rods and Pistons, a multi layer steel headgaske, arp head studs, upgraded valve springs and big turbo cam. The motor has been run n/a for about 2500km and then pulled it off the road so I could put the turbo on it and have currently got the exhaust manifold made up but have been a bit busy to do much else turbo specs are garret gt2864r ballbearing. Am going to run a haltech elite 1500 and drive by wire throttle for something different


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
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Any update on this? Interested to hear your thoughts on the new elite series from haltech

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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
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Haven't had any progress since last up date my merchanic has been busy and I brought a gti so a lot of time has been going into that trying to get a hi compression 1600 twin cam motor specked up for high rpm use with a sequential and a bunch of other goodies I also brought a swb hardtop body to chop up and put on the lwb chassy with a tray. The body had been in storage for 15 years and looks nearly perfect apart from a small bit of surface rust where they cut the brake lines


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 Post subject: Re: Making turbo vitara
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Wow sounds like you'll have your hands full keep us updated with your progress

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