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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Badges from suzuki, and fitted
part number visible for any interested 8)


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Date stamping progress on widebody prototype, just because itll be so factory looking once done, no one would realise the effort that went into it.
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Image of the "layers", from steel factory panel, to fibreglass blister, to actual flare lip....
in cf itll be single outer skin, backed by honeycomb and sealed by an inner arch moulding like factory wheel arch
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And the "money shot" I suppose, view most traffic will see... :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:28 pm 
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Moar pics please.

I wanna see the wide body with the BWTCHD signature Suzuki 'S' gang sign in the foreground and those funky gloves on... oh my goodness... brrrrrrrrrr... :P

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:39 pm 
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Oh, you like my duelling gloves eh
*slap* "you sir... Have offended me, i challange you to a deewal
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:lol: see you tomorrow at noon (seriously, see you at RAC while we watch NotSoswift dishing out the suzuki reputation) aaand ill bring your airbox


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
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Actually I think "besmirched" is a better and much underused word these days!

On topic, guards are looking awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:04 pm 
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Bewitched Gti wrote:
*slap* "you sir... Have offended me, i challange you to a deewal
Death by lap attack"
:lol: see you tomorrow at noon
Do you bite your thumb at us, Sir? You wish to do all with deaf by slap attack? Tomorrow at noon it is then my long-eared Knave and also your comeuppance... :lol:

And yes, please bringeth along this 'box of air' of which you speak. It will prove to be be most useful methinks... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:58 am 
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A word of caution with the method being used to mould these separate parts together. bodyfiller, plastic, metal and I think you have some fibreglass in there will all have different shrinkage and thermal expansion qualities as well as different flexabilities. If you don't mould your carbon quickly from a freshly prepared panel you may get an uneveness of the surface making the moulding imperfect.
Are you intending on making a female mould then making the final, will you use multilayers of carbon or a glass backing and will you remove the steelrear 1/4 skin. If you remove the steel how will you maintain the rigidity as I belive the panel is stressed?

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:39 am 
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Making moulds of each corner as its done.
Carbon of two layers (with weave directions for rigidity)
Actually painting over the finish so cosmetics arent a primary concern
Oversize panel bonded to factory steel skin (leaving monocoque steel in place as im not caged)
Panels begin in door sill, behind tail lights, and under window trim so any flex between materials wil be in repairable areas not visible on face of panel skin.
Still researching application of honeycomb, but reason for that choice is to give "crush" reinforcement in event of impact and to control and flex should someone lean on the panel.
Any thoughts, or are there considerations you dont think ive included but should?
Cheers for advice btw, i always appreciate the fresh perspective as im sure i could overlook details due to the fact im not an expert in composites yet.
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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:22 pm 
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gtpswift wrote:
bodyfiller, plastic, metal and I think you have some fibreglass

Actually, theres only 3 ingredients in there: the outter edges of panel are steel (which will be exposed to the mould) but the blister is fibreglass with a little bodyfiller to change the shape, all plastic/metal mouldings have been copied in fibreglass and those copies are the parts added to the blister.
The rearbar and skirts are fibreglass, so theres no plastic additions.
In short the bodywork modifications to be moulded are fibreglass/bodyfiller with the exception of the panel edges (which once moulded to creat panel edges will be concealed by the surrounding bodywork/tail lights)
Perhaps i shouldve elaborated in my pictorial examples

So finish the shape, take moulding then chisel/orbital sand old material off the give all steel bodywork to which the finished blisters shall thereby be attached.


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:58 pm 
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No dramas, but point still stands there are several materials. Ive found in blending my Fibreglass flares onto steel panel (mk1 escort race car) the final finish of filler has bulged and spalled slighlty leaving a less than satisfactory finish, this will need to be refinished one day. probably wait till it gets hit.
How have you finished the steelwork. Have you created a mini tub? or just cut the lips of the steel flares, either not shown or missed it in the thread
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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:10 pm 
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Will get photos when i peel the mould, cut the outter steel flare off, welded inner tub to outter skin panel, so now wheelwell goes to outter skin like a tub, and ive got a half inch width steel outter lip on that to attach the inner arch fill.
basically ive got 3" of vertical travel clearance between tyre and bodywork, with blisters as external covering flares.


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
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Whatever happened to this build???? :?


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:11 am 
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Working 6 days a week, getting a house built at end of year.
Haven't done much on cars in the last year other than drive them :lol:
Wide body's half finished, Grail block is awaiting assembily, still sussing things like oval shaped quad throttles and a zc32s 6 speed gearbox.
But nothing worth posting physical progress wise..
Oh and we have 4 Sf swift variants in our driveway
Kind of lost focus due to other plans

Oh, I do have the J series Cas that Ellpee and I developed as a joint project, I could post a photo of that I suppose


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:37 am 
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Yes put up the J series, Steve.

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:35 am 
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Modded CAS at top, lathed to suit G13B fitment and O-ring relocated to thicker portion of shaft housing, all casting marks polished off for neatness.
Stock J18 CAS at bottom to show differences of alterations.
Also note custom steel keyway Ellpee had made, both J18 and G13 keyways fit, however in combination of J18 CAS to G13B head, keyway connection to cam is marginal, but Ellpees slightly extended piece solves that.


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:37 pm 
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Thanks Steve and I spoke to ellpee about the making of one and we will work it out. Just for a change I decided that a D15 crank will go into the G16 block so I can lengthen the rods for a better R/S ratio but I may go to a 80mm bore. I have already worked out how to stroke to 100mm and believe 80mm bore is achievable. Time will tell. Lawry

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:43 pm 
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8) Always good to hear that R&D continues
I look foward to seeing your outcome Lawry, btw the sensor plug for J18 CAS can be found new on ebay, easier than convincing donor to cut their loom.


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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:27 pm 
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hey man quick question whats the offset of those wheels?? 16x8 +???

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 Post subject: Re: BWTCHD signature GTi, [Honda crank G16 Turbo]
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:55 pm 
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Exact zero offset.
So if you want hellaflush but not additional guard modification like mine, I'd suggest a 20mm offset.


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