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 Post subject: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:19 pm 
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Had to give this a go !!


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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:35 pm 
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is that out of a hyundai excel?


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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:36 pm 
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Suzuki M18A, out of a Liana.

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:39 pm 
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tru, looks a hell of alot like the engine out of my housemates excel, haha


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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:31 pm 
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so its out of a hyundai liana then ?

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:18 am 
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n0madic wrote:
so its out of a hyundai liana then ?


Correct ;)

Good to see the pics up.. 'retrotech' makes it's way to Suzuki's much like the Datsuns and their SR conversions ;)

Think there will be a healthy future in this when the M series aftermarket part development picks up some pace.


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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:00 am 
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8) looks good! the GTi is such a versatile car :D would be nice to make a Type R hunter out of this one :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:49 am 
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Well it should be a type R hunter when finished,its getting a turbo(although this one is only going to be a small one).The Liana motor puts out 90kw std,(approx 125hp)so with only 15psi boost it should put out approx 250hp.So this should make for a stress free hi hp alternative to the G series and the bonus is the Liana gearbox(3.9cwp) is already the large frame gearset and CWP(similar to the 4wd gearset)It is also possible to use with the 4.4 sport box for a close ratio race application and several companys already do lsd diffs for these gearboxes.So it has a lot going for it.
I already do turbo kits for M series engines so have the manifold and dump pipe in stock, just got to decide now which aftermarket ecu to use!!Basically the wireing is going to be the hardest part of this conversion :wink:
I will add to this thread as progress is made.

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:22 am 
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from what i can remember from the swift/evo you did/are doing dave, wiring should be no problem for you :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:50 am 
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sounds very promising! can this motor fit in an ignis sport?

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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sounds very promising! can this motor fit in an ignis sport?


Yeah, shouldn't be a problem if you swap over the manifolds etc. biggest issue is ECU.

In HyperRev a few places offer the M18A as an upgrade for the New Swift too, from memory it comes with a piggy back ECU to resolve the computer/fueling issues.

I think the Ignis Sport motor is punchy enough without the swap... also think an Ignis Sport motor would be a nice NA swap for the MK3 :D .


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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:18 am 
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I dunno, i miss the screaming redline of the G13B :P

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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So ahhh.... who is the owner of that MK3 Dave....? :roll: *cough*

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It is Dave's.

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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Show them the oil filter leak Dave! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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Show them the oil filter leak Dave! :lol: :lol: :lol:


He has more than 1 M18A block ;)


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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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nice proyect :)

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:58 am 
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This project is moving along nicely!
New m18 engine has been fitted -the one fitted before was just a dummy fit up.
New turbo clutch fitted with lightened flywheel.Gearbox is the m18 box which has similar internals to the 4wd boxes,much stronger gearset and diff with a 4.1 cwp.Speedo drive has been converted from chopper wheel and sensor to drive wheel and pinion (for manual speedo cable (gti).
New driveshafts have been made with the big spline inners(same as 4wd).
Gearshifter from a swift sport and cables from swift sport fitted.
Clutch operation converted to cable.
Engine mounts have been fabricated to bolt onto them18 block and utilise all the existing gti mounts .
Turbo is a hybrid tdo4 with a larger exhaust housing and wheel,so should spool up pretty early with the 1.8 engine.Oil feed and drain to sump completed and water feed and return via swift sport top and bottom metal hoses.
Manifold is same as my new swift turbo kit,thickwall stainless steel, dump pipe of the split wastegate pipe design ,connected to a full 21/2" exhaust system
Intercooler has now been plumbed and mounted to be stealth look hidden behind a std mk3 front bumper bar.Just a bit of intercooler to manifold work to finish.
Electrics taken care of by a adaptronic ecu(andy from adaptronic has been very helpful,already had the config for the crank chopper wheel and cam sensor,also has ability to run the variable valve timing )Luckily for me Andy(garndi) has come back from the uk and has rewired the engine bay to suit.
Hopefully over the weekend we should be up and running and ready to dyno this little beast!!.
The goal with this build is around 200hp on approx 10-12 psi as the motor is completly std,but the potential for a worked engine running a reliable 300 hp with not much boost is definately there,the m series engines all have forged cranks and four bolt main caps the m18 has a std comp ratio of approx 9;1 with the big bonus of a strong std gearbox that bolts straight in.
Pics will be up tonight.
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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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looks grate cant wate for the pics you have done a awsum job cant wate for the dyno

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 Post subject: Re: M18 in a mk3 project
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