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 Post subject: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:31 pm 
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I have a mark 2 cultus gti. The plate on the firewall says AA33S. According to Wikipedia it should definately be an AA34S. It is definately not a mark 1. Has four wheel independent and is the rounder shape....every part of the car is Mark 2. It does not look like it's had the front replaced....any ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:41 pm 
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:shock: :lol: sounds dodgey... does the number stamped into the firewall to the right of the wiper motor match the blue plate?


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:01 pm 
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Post a pic?? :D

I have an AA33S - but it is definitely a Mk1.

The Japanese worker probably stamped the wrong plate on, on Friday. :p

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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:34 am 
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Thanks guys....ill check when I get home....I'm in Los Angeles. I'll take a look. I hope nothing has been "joined" it's most definately a mark 2. No doubting that.

Hey dattman. Inbound soon....three poly engine mounts, bc shock set, I have a 22mm sway bar, Suzuki sport calipers, competition pads, looking at the suspension bushes. Rear toe ams.
Got two Toyo R888R he with me and another two next trip....unbelievably cheap in the states. Found some nice replacement rear vision mirrors for the cracked ones.

Also Derek...they are 195/50/15 tyres....I heard they are a wide 195 these toyos....with the drop will I need to roll the guards a bit? Cheers g


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:19 am 
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I would check the stamped number lines up with the blue plate, check inside the bulkhead to make sure the stamped number hasn't been "welded" in, used to be very common to "re car" a roll cage if the car was written off, ie take the cage and serial number from the damaged car and weld it into a new chassis, very common with escorts but haven't heard of anyone doing it with a suzuki.

As for your new wheels, you may need to roll the rear guards or use a mallet and a block of wood to push the lip up, with that setup you won't be able to get the car particularly low so as long as your rims have the right offset you probably won't have to touch anything.

The new 888Rs seem to be cheap everywhere except here :(


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:54 am 
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Yes the R888R is a very cheap $418 each in nz. I know it's just a wee drop but $123 usd is quite close to that....oh no sorry hang on....it's a frickin mile away. 41.86% of the price to be exact or $175 kiwi. I don't know why it has to be that out of control. Someone is either coining it or there is too many middle men! 8-[


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:37 pm 
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I can probably get the new 888Rs for under $300 each but thats still way too much money when they are only NZ$125 from the UK, postage is only $70 a tyre which still way cheaper than buying locally :?


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:37 am 
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Not Confused any more. I have a swift gti. Not a cultus. The AA33S under Wikipedia has a g13b in it as does the AA34S which they list as a cultus. We have a hatch with Cultus GTI on it...me thinks the hatch does not belong to the car. That's ok...it's going to have a cultus inlet manifold soon anyway. I wonder if anyone can tell me....what does a "good" exhaust manifold look like in cast. Mine is 4 into 2. If I'm going BD14 cams, cultus inlet manifold will I need extractors to make it work well? Cheers.


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:21 pm 
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Are you planning to improve head flow, de-shroud valves improve low valve lift flow, up the compression and dial the cams in, together with an aftermarket ecu and better gear ratios or lower final drive? Fuel type?

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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
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Swifts and Cultus's are AA34S too, only difference being the AWD Cultus model which are AF34S and rare 4 door models


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:15 am 
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Hi Blake. This is the plan for the motor at this stage bearing in mind that I think most of the time will come from handling. We only want to take car to SF class. We need 8 seconds and this is how we break it down. Better driving at least two seconds there. Handling 4 or 5 seconds. LSD a second or two. Engine poss 1 sec.
We have a plate type diff. A 4.389 FD both from dattman.
Your cultus manifold...(awesome deal mate)
Upgrade the exhaust.
It has a chip but I'm going to investigate the ECU and options.
B D 14 grind, adjustable cam pulleys, professional dial in. No head work planned at the moment so hope that cam grind will be okay on the stock engine.

If we go too far then we take it out of top of one class into bottom of another and you know what that means. [-X

Cheers g!


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:44 am 
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Still keen to know why your car has the previous generation model code.

Don't trust wikipedia, multiple errors in regards to these cars, just so you know Glenn "Cultus" is just the JDM model name for all of these cars, adding to the fact that the Baleno "Cultus" was sold alongside Swift "Cultus" in Japan for a while.

Might want to give Phil a shout out, he's has just found the code for his springs so I'm off to Chamberlains for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
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BD14 cams on a nearly stock engine imo will give a result that won't optimise your performance with standard compression and gear ratios.

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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:00 am 
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blake wrote:
BD14 cams on a nearly stock engine imo will give a result that won't optimise your performance with standard compression and gear ratios.


Well I did suggest BD10's in the beginning :wink: , he'll just have to dial the power in as early as possible and tune for torque.

Glenn the factory exhaust manifold is actually not that bad, just heavy, I know like Dara/Mad for tar is still running one in his rally car and he's making well over 140hp and more importantly has a very impressive torque curve.


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
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Bd10's or improve head flow, up the compression change the cams latter. Stock cast Manifold is pick of standard manifolds...lengthen secondaries etc... It is factory standard issue for 4x4 cultus gti.

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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:30 pm 
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Ok thanks guys....BD 10's it is then. I have no ideas where I got it from but I checked again tonight...it says aa34s? Somewhere I got my wires crossed and I feel like an idiot. :shock:
Somewhere I saw AA33s and I'm going to find out where tomorrow but the plate on the firewall is AA34S. Duh.


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:42 am 
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I managed to get some BD10s, might put them in soon. Although I will not get the best out of them until a standalone ECU gets installed and that is some time away...

Did you manage to get to the bottom of the confusion?

Standard exhaust manifold is 4-2-1 like mine and is pretty good, as Dattman mentioned.

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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
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Thanks Howsie. Yes it's an AA34S and I'm a dopey bugger.

I didn't get BD10's in the end. I was speaking to Mike Cove from three tech and he got me into some 222/365 cams that are supposed to make good power. They do need compression...so I'll look at that....best on a chip or better still a stand alone ecu. Bigger throttle body on the way matched with the cultus intake. High flow 4" resonator 14" long and 6" muffler 14" long on a 2.25" exhaust. I'll lengthen the secondaries to just behind the sway bar. That's advice I have had from a couple of sources. So I'm going to fit that all soon....try it on the engine as it is then open up the engine later if it's not performing better. The cams like revs...now I have a lower final drive and closer ratios it should help.


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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:58 am 
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That's a lot of inches Swift! :P

You can get some chips here on Redline on an exchange basis which would be a great start if the standalone is a while away.Hopefully the 222/365s do what you want, I have heard that they are a good cam.

You can bore out the standard TB to match the plenum, can get to about 55mm before you run out of metal.

As with most small capacity engines, they make bank in the upper rev range, make sure you get some adjustable cam gears so you can tune them in better.

If you float around Wellington, happy to meet up for coffee and chats :D (offer stands to anyone here in NZ)

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 Post subject: Re: Confused by vin number and model code
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Thanks howsie...at time we get down there. Have a daughter there and friends so I'll def keep that in mind....plus I love coffee! :D

Mike said to start off with the standard gears at the start....see how it goes and tweak from there....I'll try that first as I don't want to think what I have sunk into this car....lol. [-X
In the end the journey with the lad is quite worth it. Honda stuff is rife and much cheaper....but life would be boring if all we saw around the tracks was bloody honduhs.
I like the idea of wringing this little cars neck trying to find another .5 here and there....far more satisfying than just buying power. It's funny to watch the big bangers hit the brakes about 50 metres before we have to! :lol: now I have mx72 endless pads arriving...just finished rebuilding Suzuki sport calipers and braided lines for the front. Might stand on its nose now!
Got spacers for the honduh integra front rims I am going to use (50mm offset) but the cheap ass Chinese studs they put in the kit leaves me a bit cold....amazon to the rescue....ARP 12 x 1.5 and 2.5" long studs. Don't need any wheels coming off by themselves. The billet spacers themselves look ok....just have to turn up 4 rings to match the 64.1 Honda rims centres.

Car is off the track for a couple months....sitting on hoist....getting tweaked for the summer series.

If you ever come to palmy come on around. 027 7771315. Cheers Glenn.


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