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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:59 am 
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To diverse totally , one idea if you are going to the expense of liners and block guards...would be to modify the 1.6 block to take the 1.3 crank...this could be done by building up the tunnel with weld and line boring...this will give you semi closed deck, better rod ratio, the ability to bolt a 1.6 box without modification...can bore to 77mm , also in a mk2/3 the extra deck height helps with a straight inlet runner with quads.

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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:16 am 
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thanks, going to the machine shop tomorrow to see what he thinks.id just be uncertion of the dietance between the cyilinders if they would be strong enough when bored out.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:17 pm 
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Hi,

I'm not sure what bore diameter you have but I have 75mm from 1.1 K-series.
My other one with bigger step is from 1.6/1.8 and has 80mm bore already. Even I modify this setup, it will still have more than 3mm side wall if I remember correctly.

blake,

I have thought about it but I'm thinking with a G13 block as I have 5 of them! Also, I like smaller engine when I tell people it is 1300cc!
But I will think about it as I have AWD gearbox from 1600 Gti as well.

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Atchi


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:59 am 
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just a quick update, was'nt on for a wile. geting all the parts together for the build,so far gsxr 1000 itbs with the correct manifold for gti, omex ecu, 78mm pistons with 12.5:1 , liners got and custom head gasket made for 78mm bore so just waiting to get the liners turned down to right size for fiting and the block bored to take them, have the head ported and polished withe 1mm bigger valves and kent cams rally regrind. for the gear box i have a rospen gear kit with a griper diff. so will be good to get it all together.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:49 am 
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Hi,

My friend gave me different sleeves to see if I can use it.

It is Peugeot 106 Rally sleeves. Since it is free I thought why not.
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It has 5mm wall thickness and slightly taller than G13B but they get boost upto 27psi. So should be OK.
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Only issue I can see is that it has side already cut/shaved/machined to 83mm cylinder spacing. So may be I need to shorten it as well as cut new side to fit into G13B block.
This will be used when my other engine with block guard didn't worked or if K-series didn't worked as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:59 am 
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liners in and and all is looking good,ready to get building.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:40 pm 
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Hi,

How much did it cost you to get machined to fit liners?... if you don't mind.

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Atchi


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:19 pm 
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500 euro,so wasnt to bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:24 pm 
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starting to get thinks together now.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:24 am 
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Sweet looking donk 1443cc is the capacity?
which liners did you use in the end and what pistons?


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:17 am 
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thanks, yea 1443cc as my class is 1450cc so thats my max allowed. i got the liners costom made there made of spun ductile cast iron so ment to be very strong, and the pistons are from suzuki racing development they seem to be good quality well made but time will tell i went for a 12.5-1 cr so will be on the raceing fuel, the head gasket was also a problem suzuki racing development will not supply a head gasket for a 78mm bore 76mm is the max they will do so had to get it opend up with a water jet cutter,will be intresting to see what power it can make. at the moment im stoped the build again as after geting the liners installed i had to skim the block this no leaves the pistons .75mm proud of the block as you can see in the lasst photo and my gasket that im after geting made is .82mm so this leaves .07mm clerance between the piston and the head so no good its looking like get pistons machined or new deeper head gasket made ???


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:57 pm 
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I can get you a custom 78mm gasket made with a height of 2.1mm.Same composite gasket I use on my turbo engines with wide fire ring to blockside.I actually had a 78mm bore on my little 1.2 litre engine so I know they can make them to suit.
Pm me if you want more details

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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:57 am 
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just a few photos of the car before i took the engine out.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:47 am 
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Great looking car, I love the paint job, not sure about the carbs though!


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:21 am 
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Dont worry. carbs wont be going back on, gsxr 1000 itbs ready for the rebuild.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:22 am 
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takeing shape now,ready for the gearbox now.


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:57 pm 
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Hi,

I managed to buy BNIB Rover K-series. So I bought 4 for me to carry out this mod.
I get old liner taken out, then glout bottom then fit liners. After that block guards lower than my last one.

My 1st block will be sent to Jerry to fit into his AWD Mini estate turbo.

Watch this space!

Cheers
Atchi


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:11 am 
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What crank pulley is that with what looks like CAS Trigger?

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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:28 am 
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its favorable to have the ITBs closer to the head for less reversion, more response and better shaped lengthened velocity stacks to suit requirements. Being so close to the firewall makes velocity stack tuning is limited


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 Post subject: Re: Rover K-series liners into G13B
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:38 am 
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Hi,

I have now left my spare engine block to be machined. As I said before, I managed to get hold of these rare liners.
So, my machinist will carry out following.

take out old liners
machine out for new liners
let me fill in kind of grouting stuff
machine block guard lower than top like eveyone said
fit oil squirters(my fordged rods don't have oil holes)
steel main cap to be fitted
oil return from a turbo in the block
modification of liners

He is one of the best machinist in UK... I found out. So I'm hopefull that he will do excellent job.
My other block with blockguard will be sent to Jerry aka Hayling Mini(Garndi's mate) for his AWD Mini beast! I hope he can make more than 350Bhp.

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