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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:22 am 
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I'm still trying to understand why someone would go through the trouble of converting to a different crank for the G16 :|

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:40 am 
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If it's make that much hp, the crank can not be doing to bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:00 pm 
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That link on the 11 second swift sedan with cast g16 crank? impressive if so
still wonder if Tajima`s twin engined cultus ever used billet cranshafts?.

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The rod ratio isn't a problem as it'll have a 61 mm stroke. The closed bores might be of interest though. Does the G13B head bolt onto it? But the G10 crank won't fit it ... ?


Bill any idea if the g10 crank is a cheap cast item?

To get close to 1180cc you would need 78mm from a 61mm stroke
yet the g13b at 76mm seems a sure bet to last compared to 78mm.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Bill any idea if the g10 crank is a cheap cast item?

To get close to 1180cc you would need 78mm from a 61mm stroke
yet the g13b at 76mm seems a sure bet to last compared to 78mm.



I'm not sure, I'll have to check at some point. I've been told it won't be a problem though.
Yes I'd really like to run 78 mm bores but the reliability is more important to me so if I have to run it a little smaller then so bit it.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:31 pm 
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nothing more boost and e85 to make up for it :)


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:31 pm 
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DeTune wrote:
I'm still trying to understand why someone would go through the trouble of converting to a different crank for the G16

Superior components last longer in race conditions. One crankshaft choice consideration is reliability especially in rally and endurance type competition. In drag racing the engine only has to run a few seconds in a straight line, components can be lifed to 3 or 4 meetings or 2kms of running then stripped checked etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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d wrote:
still wonder if Tajima`s twin engined cultus ever used billet cranshafts?.

Yes....you have asked this before!! Preproduction unnumbered blocks, standard 75mm
bores 15 mm billet alloy girdle , oil squirters for pistons etc. The crankshafts all went back to Suzukisport in Japan.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:53 pm 
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Im not the only one whos asked this! is that information from the horses mouth?

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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is that information from the horses mouth?

It didn't come out its arse...

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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blake wrote:
d wrote:
is that information from the horses mouth?

It didn't come out its arse...


did sound like Monster digestive gas


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:33 am 
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oh wow :shock:

any more pics?

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:36 pm 
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whoo haah! lovely, Horses Tongue indeed!

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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If your interested bill I grabbed the Dxf file for the girdle that runbag cut for his rwd mk1 conversion. He used a 1 " piece of free cutting aluminium from memory. It's in me dreams folder :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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VOLKERbALL-GTi wrote:
If your interested bill I grabbed the Dxf file for the girdle that runbag cut for his rwd mk1 conversion. He used a 1 " piece of free cutting aluminium from memory. It's in me dreams folder :wink:


Thanks! I'm not convinced the block needs one like that but I'd love a copy anyway so I can have a look at it. I was going to design one myself - I do 2D and limited 3D Autocad stuff - but it's easier to modify someone else's design. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:11 am 
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southy wrote:
oh wow :shock:

any more pics?


+1 :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:12 pm 
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here is the file, it looks a little smaller than blakes, but i think this would help with strengthening the maincaps.
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http://www.crank-scrapers.com/GIRDLES.DXF

this is the link anyway, i couldnt upload the file directly, probably to prevent piracy.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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Thanks, I may end up modifying that one to use anyway. I reckon the main caps need to be joined together but perhaps not to the skirt of the block.


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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:21 pm 
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Also that notch is for the oil pick up I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: Turbo G13B block, how to prepare for lots of boost?
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VOLKERbALL-GTi wrote:
Also that notch is for the oil pick up I believe.



Yep - Mine doesn't have that there so I could change it to make it symmetrical again.
The oil feed into the pressure pump comes into the side of the pump housing -

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